Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 15th Aug 2009 17:55 UTC
X11, Window Managers Over the past couple of months, and especially over the past couple of weeks, I've been working very hard to write and complete my thesis. I performed all the work on Windows 7, but now that the thesis is finally done, submitted, and accepted, I installed Ubuntu - and immediately I was reminded of why I do not do any serious work on Linux: the train wreck that is X.org.
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RE[4]: Yes
by fury on Sun 16th Aug 2009 08:22 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Yes"
fury
Member since:
2005-09-23

"People throw up comments about their experience..."

Right, just like Thom just did. It doesn't matter that a great portion of people who are Linux-savvy have no such troubles, because Thom's voice is louder and the happy people don't have a need to submit to OSNews about the wonderful time we're having. I will assume that he was "mad as hell and wouldn't take it anymore" but it was a waste of time and comes off as incredibly whiney.

My advice for Thom (who, for me, has pretty much lost the slow-coming, gradual trust he's earned for decent, fair reporting since he took over) is to lock up his keyboard until he has something real to report, not just his frustrating (and embarrassing, given his self-proclaimed title of "OS aficionado" or whatever he calls himself) tale of that time he was unable to figure out Linux. He rags on X.org and calls for it's dismissal when this is such a naive viewpoint that I pity him. Here are the facts:
* Network transparency has nothing to do with performance or reliability
* X.org might suck, but X11 does not
* Duplicating the amount of work to rebuild a system with the capabilities of X is stupid
* Because of the other points in this list, *all* *other* attempts to build alternative windowing systems have failed. And I know. Because I was involved with some of them.

How's my experience? 720p video plays fine (on my rather crappy 1.7ghz + 1G RAM and AGP Geforce 7300) *while* running compositing and deforming the whole desktop into a sphere mode, with Compiz and KDE 4.1. (I've even done tests with multiple videos with decent screen framerate).

Fact is, it *could* be an X.org bug, but more likely it is bad drivers, configuration, or a poorly supported graphics chipset. The fact that Thom stubbed his proverbial thumb and then got mad and decided to lash out against X is a sad one, and unbefitting of someone with the experience he has.

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RE[5]: Yes
by spronkey on Sun 16th Aug 2009 13:27 in reply to "RE[4]: Yes"
spronkey Member since:
2009-08-16

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Mac OS X a prime example here?

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RE[5]: Yes
by Tuishimi on Sun 16th Aug 2009 15:12 in reply to "RE[4]: Yes"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

On the other hand there are 199 replies to this topic. ;)

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