Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 28th Aug 2009 22:05 UTC
Legal The week isn't even over yet, and we already have another instalment in the Apple-Psystar soap opera. Psystar has filed a new lawsuit in the Florida Southern District Court in Miami, asking for an injunction and damages because of Apple's "anticompetitive attempts to tie Mac OS X Snow Leopard to its Macintosh line of computers".
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by macUser on Fri 28th Aug 2009 22:53 UTC in reply to "..."
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2006-12-15

Let alone that, Psystar computers don't run OSX taht well eather, Im all for installing OSX in any computer, but at least get a certification or something.


You already can install it on any computer... What is continuously left out of the whole Pystar debate is that Apple has not gone after a single "hackintosh" user.

They've only gone after Pystar...

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by umccullough on Fri 28th Aug 2009 23:32 in reply to "RE: ..."
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2006-01-26

You already can install it on any computer... What is continuously left out of the whole Pystar debate is that Apple has not gone after a single "hackintosh" user.

They've only gone after Pystar...


Which suggests that Apple doesn't consider it illegal if I do it...but they do consider it illegal if Psystar does it.

Wait... double-standard?

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by haus on Fri 28th Aug 2009 23:38 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
haus Member since:
2009-08-18

"Which suggests that Apple doesn't consider it illegal if I do it...but they do consider it illegal if Psystar does it.

Wait... double-standard?"


It's not so much a double standard as they are profiting on it. You wouldn't be doing it yourself. Sell it and you're inviting a lawsuit.

Edited 2009-08-28 23:39 UTC

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by DrillSgt on Sat 29th Aug 2009 01:35 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
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2005-12-02

Which suggests that Apple doesn't consider it illegal if I do it...but they do consider it illegal if Psystar does it.

Wait... double-standard?


Not a double standard at all. Fair Use as far as copyright is concerned deals with the consumer. Which of course means if you do it with your own machines, Apple, although they may not like it, can't do squat.

The definition of consumer as far as copyright and fair use goes, is "An individual who buys products or services for personal use and not for manufacture or resale. A consumer is someone who can make the decision whether or not to purchase an item at the store, and someone who can be influenced by marketing and advertisements. Any time someone goes to a store and purchases a toy, shirt, beverage, or anything else, they are making that decision as a consumer."

Another definition is "End user, and not necessarily a purchaser, in the distribution chain of a good or service. See also customer."

Psystar by definition is not a consumer by either of the above. They purchase OS X with the intent of manufacturing computers and reselling the box. That goes against copyright and DMCA.

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by macUser on Sat 29th Aug 2009 04:05 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
macUser Member since:
2006-12-15

"You already can install it on any computer... What is continuously left out of the whole Pystar debate is that Apple has not gone after a single "hackintosh" user.

They've only gone after Pystar...


Which suggests that Apple doesn't consider it illegal if I do it...but they do consider it illegal if Psystar does it.

Wait... double-standard?
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You don't have the potential to hurt their bottom line. Pystar and a throng of companies like them do. That's the difference, and it's significant.

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by kaiwai on Sat 29th Aug 2009 06:36 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
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2005-07-06

You already can install it on any computer... What is continuously left out of the whole Pystar debate is that Apple has not gone after a single "hackintosh" user.

They've only gone after Pystar...


Which suggests that Apple doesn't consider it illegal if I do it...but they do consider it illegal if Psystar does it.

Wait... double-standard?


Or they don't think it is worth their while. You could apply the same situation with Microsoft or Adobe turning a blind eye to the many copies of Windows that are copied by students to get through their university courses. Does it make it legal? of course not, it just isn't worth their while going after small fry enthusiast communities that are no threat to their business model.

It is like the police; do they concern themselves with Bob the stoner who has a couple of pot plants, doesn't sell, and keeps to himself or are the resources better focused on targeted the big time growers and sellers? its is call triage honey and it appears everywhere.

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by Phloptical on Sat 29th Aug 2009 13:07 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
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2006-10-10

You're not charging for it. You purchased (right?) the license of OS X and are installing it how you see fit.

If Apple really cared about OS X running on non apple hardware, they wouldn't sell single copies on the shelves.

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by bigozs on Sun 30th Aug 2009 08:01 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
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2005-08-07

I would think they consider it illegal when you profit from it.

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by Stephen! on Fri 28th Aug 2009 23:36 in reply to "RE: ..."
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2007-11-24

You already can install it on any computer... What is continuously left out of the whole Pystar debate is that Apple has not gone after a single "hackintosh" user.

They've only gone after Pystar...


They probably don't see it as being worth it to go after individual users.

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