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Graphics, User Interfaces InfoWorld's John Rizzo chronicles the 20 most significant ideas and features Microsoft and Apple have stolen from each other in the lead up to Windows 7 and Mac OS X Snow Leopard. 'Some features were stolen so long ago that they've become part of the computing landscape, and it's difficult to remember who invented what.' Windows 7's Task Bar and Aero Peek come to mind as clear appropriations of Mac OS X's Dock and Expose. Apple's cloning of the Windows address bar in 2007's Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard as the path bar is another obvious 'inspiration.' But the borrowing goes deeper, Rizzo writes, providing a screenshot tour of Microsoft's biggest grabs from Mac OS X and Apple's most significant appropriations of Windows OS ideas and functionality.
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eldarion
Member since:
2008-12-15

You are wrong. Free Software have innovation. Take a look at KDE4. What desktop environment you know that is completely based on SVG? And what about the folder view widget? On this, i belive it was proprietary software that copied from FOSS (http://www.stardock.com/products/fences/)

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Take a look at KDE4. What desktop environment you know that is completely based on SVG?

I wouldn't really call that innovation. SVG existed already before, SVG has been used in DEs in many places already (themes, icons, wallpapers) so they just extended the use of it to the rest of the DE, too. It was a good move, but hardly a totally new innovation.

And what about the folder view widget?

A window which display you the contents of a specific folder in a graphical manner and allows you to manipulate those contents...Let's see, does anything else do that? Oh, wait, almost ALL graphical file managers. The only different here is that it's part of your desktop, not an individual window. That too is not really invention, it's just yet another way to implement this functionality.

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ichi Member since:
2007-03-06

I wouldn't really call that innovation. SVG existed already before, SVG has been used in DEs in many places already (themes, icons, wallpapers) so they just extended the use of it to the rest of the DE, too. It was a good move, but hardly a totally new innovation.


Then nothing is innovative anymore, since everything is based on something used somewhere else.

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eldarion Member since:
2008-12-15

I wouldn't really call that innovation. SVG existed already before, SVG has been used in DEs in many places already (themes, icons, wallpapers) so they just extended the use of it to the rest of the DE, too. It was a good move, but hardly a totally new innovation.

And what exactly you understand by inovation? You do realize that without old ideas you can't inovate, right? It's humanly impossible to inovate without taking some old ideas. What you are saying is that "the invension of fire is not an innovation because they already had wood and the friction was nothing new, so all they had to do was to join these two things (wood + friction) to make fire"

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google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

Basing everything on a format designed to be easily parsed rather then for size or speed makes me cringe a little....

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rirmak Member since:
2009-06-23

I wouldn't be wrong even if you were right about KDE4.

Firstly KDE is not FSF. (But I admit this is nitpicking.) Secondly, my reply was for strcpy only. The two of us share our own delusional world. Even some cliches, as you probably didn't notice.

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Take a look at KDE4. What desktop environment you know that is completely based on SVG?

KDE4 was based upon *hype*. They took every buzzword that was flying around a several years ago and based KDE3+1 upon it. And the results, in a real world sense, speak for themselves. It was an interesting experiment.

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rirmak Member since:
2009-06-23

Don't speak like that. You are not the only one dissatisfied with this transition, but this doesn't mean we have to say all kind of bullshit just to get it out of our chest. AFAICT, pretty soon we can conveniently switch back to KDE.

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eldarion Member since:
2008-12-15

KDE4 was based upon *hype*. They took every buzzword that was flying around a several years ago and based KDE3+1 upon it. And the results, in a real world sense, speak for themselves. It was an interesting experiment.

I will not discuss that with you since obviously you don't know what you are talking about and just what to troll.

Read more about that buzzwords you say on the link below and grow up.

http://thomasmcguire.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/akonadi-nepomuk-and-s...

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