Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 29th Oct 2009 17:51 UTC
Microsoft We all know that Microsoft doesn't actually make computers. It makes the software, and then lets an almost infinite amount of manufacturers build computers that can run its software. These manufacturers often make a mess of things, delivering computers filled to the brim with crapware. What would happen if Microsoft made computers? Well, for one, they would be void of crapware. Two, they would help users install the software they want before leaving the store - including software from competitors.
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by vondur on Thu 29th Oct 2009 19:23 UTC
vondur
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2005-07-07

Just how fundamentally bad Windows can be. Really, should having a lot of software installed slow your machine down? Unless all of the software is launching items at start up, it should not make any difference. It does not happen using Linux or OSX. It's funny when not techies look at my Windows machine and see how much better it runs then their own. I of course build the PC and install the OS myself. Others don't have that luxury.

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by WereCatf on Thu 29th Oct 2009 19:41 in reply to "This also shows..."
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Just how fundamentally bad Windows can be. Really, should having a lot of software installed slow your machine down? Unless all of the software is launching items at start up, it should not make any difference.

It isn't really the amount of software. You apparently haven't seen a crapware-loaded PC in a while. Crapware is called crapware exactly because it usually insists on running in the background all the time, is hard to remove, starts up automatically at boot, and it does all kinds of "smart" tricks for you, like scans all your files all the time in the background and uploads the list somewhere.

That is what makes the Windows PC so slow, it's not in most cases Windows in and of itself doing that.

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by license_2_blather on Thu 29th Oct 2009 23:34 in reply to "RE: This also shows..."
license_2_blather Member since:
2006-02-05

It isn't really the amount of software. You apparently haven't seen a crapware-loaded PC in a while. Crapware is called crapware exactly because it usually insists on running in the background all the time, is hard to remove, starts up automatically at boot, and it does all kinds of "smart" tricks for you, like scans all your files all the time in the background and uploads the list somewhere.

That is what makes the Windows PC so slow, it's not in most cases Windows in and of itself doing that.


True. Problem for me has been that often once you remove it, you don't get all your speed back. I still wiped clean and reloaded all my Windows PCs, even those with XP, every couple years or so just to restore performance and remove anomalous behavior.

This could (and maybe should) be blamed on substandard installers. But I don't think even Microsoft knows what everything is in that monstrosity they call the registry.

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by Bending Unit on Thu 29th Oct 2009 19:47 in reply to "This also shows..."
Bending Unit Member since:
2005-07-06

Of course programs not running don't slow a computer down. How can they? This crapware is probably designed to run in the background all the time.

Well, there are probably some ways software packages can interfere with Windows itself, making certain tasks take longer. Maybe installing a crapload of fonts that Windows have to enumerate.

Edit: Oops, took too long typing my post...

Edited 2009-10-29 19:50 UTC

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by vondur on Thu 29th Oct 2009 20:15 in reply to "RE: This also shows..."
vondur Member since:
2005-07-07

I was referring more to the registry. Having a lot of software installed on your machine can slow it down when the registry becomes really large.

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