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Microsoft Thom's down with flu, so to avoid moving a lot of interesting news to pg.2, I am creating a combined item here covering a number of Microsoft related news items submitted to us.
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RE[3]: Massive?
by just-me on Sun 15th Nov 2009 11:53 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Massive?"
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2009-09-09


Also, in both cases, it clearly displayed the *right* folder name on my system in the delete prompt-- having two folders with the same name is asking for trouble, ESPECIALLY when dealing with your "very important data that only exists in one location"-- and believe me, if you have "very important data that only exists in one location", that location had better be your backups.

And if you're deleting files from your backups by hand, you fail.


Sure - having a parent folder with the same will be a rare case.
But having a backup is cold comfort if it is from last night and you just lost 3 hours of work. The file(s) might just be new - created after the last backup - and you and your team spent all day on it. It's late in the day and you just wanted to clean up some scratch files.

How many places make backups more than once a night?
And even under optimal circumstances (differential backups every hour) it would be a pain to get an admin to restore those files.

A bug is a bug is a bug. It's great that it won't affect all people all the time - but the few it affects will be rightfully pis*ed.

"has made the explorer all but unusable" is a bit overhyping it though.

Edited 2009-11-15 11:56 UTC

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RE[4]: Massive?
by James.Hoving on Sun 15th Nov 2009 13:24 in reply to "RE[3]: Massive?"
James.Hoving Member since:
2009-11-14

I just tested it with Aero on. The problem is still there but the color on the two "selected" items are different. It still report the wrong item (the out of focus one) at the bottom of the explorer windows so if you rely on that and not the color you are still fed. (BTW. Who runs Aero on a server?)

Of cause you can work around it, of cause you can use filecommander or you can use a cli for all you file managing. But does that make this OK?

There IS a major focus bug in the new explorer, and ppl WILL lose data over it.

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RE[5]: Massive?
by martini on Sun 15th Nov 2009 14:09 in reply to "RE[4]: Massive?"
martini Member since:
2006-01-23

If you check the video.
On 0:47 he creates "New Folder" inside "New Folder".

On 1:12 He selects the parent "New Folder" that has the "New Folder" child and the .txt files.

It is not a bug. He deleted the parent folder. It is a "I have the same folder name and subfolder name" User Error.

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RE[5]: Massive?
by grat on Mon 16th Nov 2009 05:39 in reply to "RE[4]: Massive?"
grat Member since:
2006-02-02

Who runs Aero on a server?)


Who does irrevocable file operations on a server?

There IS a major focus bug in the new explorer, and ppl WILL lose data over it.


Unless focus is changing without you clicking on things, it's not a bug, it's how it's designed. I couldn't get focus to change on just a mouseover, and I would expect the behavior you got from clicking where you clicked.

It could be slightly more obvious what's going on, but bottom line is, if you're going to shift-delete files on a server, you had better know EXACTLY what you're doing.

You are essentially complaining that Windows did what you told it to do, rather than what you wanted it to do.

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