Linked by Kroc Camen on Sun 29th Nov 2009 20:02 UTC, submitted by fsmag
GNU, GPL, Open Source From Free Software Magazine: "Google promises a much needed shift in the way small computers work. Problems like software updates, backups, installation, maintenance, viruses, have plagued the world for too long: a shift is way overdue. To me, however, the change about to happen shows us what many people have refused to believe for a long time: KDE and GNOME shot each other dead."
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You're looking at it the wrong way.
by cheemosabe on Sun 29th Nov 2009 21:24 UTC
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2009-11-29

I agree completely with KDE and Gnome being in the same boat as Windows and MacOS (i.e. desktop style environments).

People are really wrong to point the finger at KDE and Gnome though. They're just an example of the way things work in the open source world. Some people saw a way to make something nice that worked and that's how KDE appeared. Same with Gnome. If anyone could have improved them or come up with something better they would have, considering the open source nature of those projects.

People just cling to successful projects like these, identify with them, get their hopes up that they'll prove to be the best and justify their choices. That's alright but to ignore all the great work that went into those projects and disregard them completely because of what was lacking is disrespectful and contemptuous.

What is truly crazy is blaming people for creating something obviously valuable. You can't stop diversity. It's the same with books. Anyone can write one and nobody has the right to stop that. It's up to distributions to choose a set of applications and create a uniform OS.

What really lacks is standards. That's what unites the web right now. That's why web applications are a viable solution.

Edited 2009-11-29 21:32 UTC

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wirespot Member since:
2006-06-21

No, that's not why. Web apps are a "solution" looking for a problem. There is no problem, other than the issue of accessing your data remotely from anywhere in the world. But there are other solutions to that. You can always leave the home computer on and share a drive and protect it with a password so you can access it from anywhere.

The Web apps are a darling because they barrier for adoption is zero (everybody has a browser), they use a more or less common ground (HTML/CSS/JavaScript) and big corporations love the fact they can fully control the software, the app itself, and rent the services, what it does, to people. It's cheaper and simpler than maintaining apps in various languages for various operating systems.

Second, don't make the mistake of thinking that about standards. There are no standards on the Web. Oh sure, we got something that looks like it, but there's no references implementation, just the specs. As long as those specs are open to interpretations (and they are) and there's no one browser everone can look at and say "let's make it work like THAT browser works", there are no standards.

Desktop apps have standards too. Linux certainly does. It has POSIX, it has LSB, it has EWMH, and all apps adhere to those. Well, more or less. ;) But it has the standards.

So no, standards aren't why. See above for the real reasons.

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