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Apple It's the most hyped device of the moment, a device that nobody has laid eyes on without an NDA death-grip. While rumour and speculation escalate (sometimes giving way to apathy), little has leaked out of Cupertino. But nobody seems to be asking whether this tablet thing will be successful or not.
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Cut/copy-paste is trivial now?
by BallmerKnowsBest on Fri 22nd Jan 2010 03:24 UTC
BallmerKnowsBest
Member since:
2008-06-02

Look at the fuss they made over minor missing iPhone features, because they once cut & pasted something on their WinMo or Symbian phone. The tablet is a gift.


In other words, you've never used your phone for contact or calendar management. Noted.

The (implied) spin is hilarious, though: people didn't criticize the lack of cut-copy-paste because it's incredibly useful feature that has been standard on every other smartphone OS ever made, nosiree. If you consider it to be a basic, essential feature, then you're OBVIOUSLY just biased against Apple.

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memson Member since:
2006-01-01

"Look at the fuss they made over minor missing iPhone features, because they once cut & pasted something on their WinMo or Symbian phone. The tablet is a gift.


In other words, you've never used your phone for contact or calendar management. Noted.
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Did I ever use cut/copy and paste on a mobile device prior to the fuss made by iPhone haters? Um.. YES.. at least once, every time I set up a new WinMo device, because the 'tards at Microsoft INSIST on you using it in at least WM2000, 2002 and 2003 in "welcome" app to copy an appointment - and AFAIK you can't skip that (at least I couldn't be arsed to work out how.) After that? Possibly.. not frequently enough to bust a gasket over though.

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winter skies Member since:
2009-08-21

OH yes, I remember that.. You had to copy/paste that appointment every time the battery died on a Compaq iPaq 3130 (grayscale green-backlit display) with NO flash storage to save data or settings... very useful for playing Solitaire when I was bored, but how I desired that device! (I was little more than a young boy then).
BTW, the oooooold WinMo copy/paste menu is still better than copy/paste possibilities on Symbian S60v5 (have an N97mini).

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Cymro Member since:
2005-07-07

I was being a little jocular with my wording, but my point was that the criticism was often way out of proportion. A missing feature like copy & paste didn't make the iPhone a useless toy, or nullify all its innovations, but you'd read lots of comments to that effect.

The iPad seems like even better ammunition and I'm sure it'll be used to reinforce the stereotype of a style-over-substance, more-money-than-sense Apple-user. Trendy Soho types sipping their skinny lattes and playing with their iPad... I'm not saying it's wrong - it can be pretty funny, and accurate, but this device would be perfect fodder for the critics.

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tupp Member since:
2006-11-12

A missing feature like copy & paste didn't make the iPhone a useless toy, or nullify all its innovations...

Exactly what innovations first appeared in the Iphone? Please list them.

Also, please stop trying to spin "copy and paste" as a trivial feature. This capability was being used fairly often in smart phones long before the Iphone, as it is today.

In fact, I am glad that I am not composing this message on an Iphone, because part of my post is copied and pasted from Maddox's infamous, no-nonsense assessment of the original Iphone (and its theatrical announcement by Steve Jobs): http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone

As you can see from the Maddox page, the Iphone lacks other basic features, like having a period (".") on the keyboard. To type something as simple an ellipsis ("...") with the Iphone, one originally had to tap one's finger nine times and go into a sub-screens three times.

Now there is a shortcut when typing an ellipsis with the Iphone, but one still has to go into a sub-screen, and the shortcut is so "intuitive" that this simple operation requires a tutorial: http://artoftheiphone.com/2009/06/25/iphone-basics-how-to-make-an-e...

There are plenty of other Iphone UI problems and lack of features. On the Maddox page, note the comparison chart on the between the Iphone and an old Nokia N70.



... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... !!!


... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... !!! (I copied and pasted this one.)
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Edited 2010-01-23 21:00 UTC

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