Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 2nd Feb 2010 22:26 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Today, we have two major mobile operating systems releasing updates to their platforms. First, Apple bumped the iPhone OS up to version 3.1.3, and second, Google released an update for the Nexus One which implements activates multitouch support for the phone.
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RE: Over the air...
by kragil on Tue 2nd Feb 2010 22:53 UTC in reply to "Over the air..."
kragil
Member since:
2006-01-04

Over 3G or over wifi updating is the way to go.

Why should someone have to use bloated spyware that used to be a mp3 player to update their phone??

BTW How will the Ipad update?

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RE[2]: Over the air...
by darknexus on Tue 2nd Feb 2010 23:14 in reply to "RE: Over the air..."
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Heh agreed. I can't wait until the accessibility features of Android get up to scratch and I can move off the iPhone. Still, not sure I'd want my phone updating completely automatically, at least ask me first in case it's not convenient at that particular moment. Is this what Android does, at least for system updates? Non-critical minor updates can be done automatically but nothing that requires an os restart, for that I want confirmation. Also, not sure if any Android phones support the lower 850 mhz 3g band, anyone know? I know the Nexus 1 doesn't.

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RE[3]: Over the air...
by ariarinen on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 09:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Over the air..."
ariarinen Member since:
2009-02-07

Also, not sure if any Android phones support the lower 850 mhz 3g band, anyone know? I know the Nexus 1 doesn't.
They are on there way, engadget posted about a new Nexus one model that supports 850 MHz band as well.

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RE[3]: Over the air...
by nbensa on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 14:27 in reply to "RE[2]: Over the air..."
nbensa Member since:
2005-08-29

Motorola Milestone does 850MHz

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RE[2]: Over the air...
by mrhasbean on Tue 2nd Feb 2010 23:25 in reply to "RE: Over the air..."
mrhasbean Member since:
2006-04-03

Over 3G or over wifi updating is the way to go.

Why should someone have to use bloated spyware that used to be a mp3 player to update their phone??

BTW How will the Ipad update?


And what happens if you start the update on WiFi and have to go out somewhere? Have to leave the phone behind? Does it automatically stop the update and pick up again later, or does it just continue on your 3G data, that in some countries you pay significantly for. Again, it's about what works everywhere, but most people don't give a shit if it doesn't affect them.

Personally I like it that I can have the update downloading on my computer while I take my phone around doing whatever I please and it's just ready to update when I sync it - doesn't interfere with my use of the device at all that way, unlike the alternative. But then again, I actually use it as a business tool...

Edited 2010-02-02 23:29 UTC

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RE[3]: Over the air...
by unoengborg on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 09:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Over the air..."
unoengborg Member since:
2005-07-06


And what happens if you start the update on WiFi and have to go out somewhere? Have to leave the phone behind? Does it automatically stop the update and pick up again later, or does it just continue on your 3G data, that in some countries you pay significantly for. Again, it's about what works everywhere, but most people don't give a shit if it doesn't affect them.


These phones are built for internet use. To use them to their full capacity without costing you an arm and a leg you need to have some kind of flat rate plan. If you can't get that from your provider you should probably switch provider or use some other phone.

So I guess most people with these phones will have little problem with OTA updates, at least as long as you can prevent it from ugrading or use none wifi internet services when you are abroad, where flat rate plans usually do not apply. In Android it is possible to turn off such internet access so it should not be a problem.

Any upgrade of this kind neet to take into account that loss of internet connectivity might be lost during update, and handle that somehow, either save whatever bits it allreayd downoaded, or start all over when it gets connected again. So if they have done it correctly it should be possible to turn off internet in the middle of an upgrade.

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RE[2]: Over the air...
by Delgarde on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 00:58 in reply to "RE: Over the air..."
Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

BTW How will the Ipad update?


Capability-wise, it can be regarded as an oversized iPhone, so I assume it updates the same way as other users of iPhone OS....

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RE[2]: Over the air...
by Karitku on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 08:50 in reply to "RE: Over the air..."
Karitku Member since:
2006-01-12

BTW How will the Ipad update?

Since it's not true computer (Hi it's me, Mister Troll) you plug it on Mac (rare cases) or PC(most cases) and use iTunes to update. Yes it will be tightly tied to iTunes just like iPod Touch. Mister Troll out and back to cave.

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