Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 2nd Feb 2010 23:25 UTC, submitted by Chicken Blood
Apple The beauty of the internet is such that every opinion has become worthless; this goes doubly so for those with publish buttons on (relatively, we're humble) major websites. For every opinion, there's a matching counter-opinion, and that's great. Yesterday, we linked to an article by Mark Pilgrim about tinkerers and the iPad, and of course, someone was bound to disagree with that one.
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RE[7]: Now that's Sniveling!
by Gone fishing on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 10:42 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Now that's Sniveling! "
Gone fishing
Member since:
2006-02-22

Do you think people should be allowed to turn back the odometer on their cars since they own them? How about removing the catalytic converter?


I suppose the analogy is a dangerous thing in the wrong hands - but if we're using an automotive analogy. I suppose the closest analogy to "winding back the odometer" would be trying to pass off a dual-core as a quad-core and is hardly relevant here. The catalytic converter there is no relevance here.

However, do I think someone should be allowed to open the bonnet (hood) and change the carburetor, fit bigger valves and skim the head - absolutely. My guess you think not as it might encourage them to break the speed limit.

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aesiamun Member since:
2005-06-29

no, winding back the odometer does not affect performance. It's just a misrepresentation of what you are selling.

Saying it's a quad core, but only selling a dual core is a performance difference...

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

I suppose the closest analogy to "winding back the odometer" would be trying to pass off a dual-core as a quad-core and is hardly relevant here. The catalytic converter there is no relevance here.


Who said anything about selling? You're not allowed to turn back the odometer even if you keep your car in the woods. Tampering with it is against the law.

Why does the catalytic converter have no relevance? It's another part you are not allowed to remove. The point is that society already sets limits on ownership for a greater good. It isn't anything new.

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umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

Why does the catalytic converter have no relevance? It's another part you are not allowed to remove. The point is that society already sets limits on ownership for a greater good. It isn't anything new.


WTF? I can remove the catalytic converter on my car whenever I want. There is no rule about owning a car that says it must have a catalytic converter. There is no lock or preventative measure to prevent me from removing it - the car will still function.

I just can't legally drive my car on California's public roads without one (unless an exemption is obtained, which do exist for certain purposes). Driving on public roads is a privilege, not a right, which is also why I must have a license to do so, and my vehicle must meet certain requirements. Otherwise I can drive my car on private roads, offroad, and on racetracks all day long without it. I can ultimately turn my car into anything I want.

Likewise, if I want to use my computer for purposes not previously intended by the manufacturer, I can do so. If it locks me out of privileged services provided by the manufacturer for those who follow the rules, that's great - but please don't restrict my freedom to use it outside of those privileged services.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Like using draconian restrictions on legally purchased computer hardware to prop up old business models. The greater good of the few.

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umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

You're not allowed to turn back the odometer even if you keep your car in the woods. Tampering with it is against the law.


Also wrong... wow, you really do live in a strange world.

I can remove the odometer from my car entirely if I want... and I can even drive it publicly like that - or even sell it as such! If I wind back the odometer on my car, I must disclose this to a buyer if it is going to be registered with the DMV. There is even a place on the title transfer form to disclose that the odometer reading is known to be incorrect by the seller. If I fail to do this, it is considered fraud during the sale, which is a completely different crime than we're talking about here.

I suppose you also believe that every car out there must be registered and the owner must have a title proving their ownership. This is untrue if you don't plan to drive it on public roads. I have a feeling you've been brainwashed into believing the only use for a car is to drive it on public roads.

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