Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 26th Feb 2010 12:22 UTC, submitted by kragil
Gnome GNOME hacker Seth Nickell has written a lengthy PDF and accompanying blog post with a number of very interesting ideas for GNOME 3.0. I pondered putting this up on the front page, but since that usually only attracts the "It's not what I'm used to so it sucks"-crowd, I decided to put it up here. Be sure to read the blog post, the PDF, and the comments on the blog post to get the entire picture.
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That's a lot of thought
by WereCatf on Fri 26th Feb 2010 12:54 UTC
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2006-02-15

They sure have thrown around a whole bunch of creativity with their plans for Gnome 3. Like for example the fixed location of things, as they themselves noticed, helps develop muscle memory and as such the more you use GNOME3 the smoother the ride becomes.

But I personally liked the most their plan of allowing you to just drag a whole workspace into 'Pooper' so you can work on it some other day, with all the window contents and data still intact. It's gonna be such a killer feature. Unfortunately they're not apparently going to get it working for GNOME 3.0, but I hope it's not going to be delayed for long.

It's not mentioned in the blog post or the PDF but they're also working on getting off-screen rendering working in GTK+ so you can finally have fluid and rich animations wherever you need them. Well, ABOUT EFFING TIME!

Ps. read the PDF. It's atleast somewhat more coherent than his blog post.

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RE: That's a lot of thought
by robmv on Fri 26th Feb 2010 14:40 in reply to "That's a lot of thought"
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2006-08-12

The Task Pooper concept looks like an evolved (drag animation) of the workspaces concept (IIRC the name) of OS/2 Workplace Shell (WPS)

WPS folders had a setting that made the it work like the real folder, if you have open documents when that folder is closed, all documents were saved and closed simultaneously, the next time you open the folder the previous state is restored and all documents previously open are reopened

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RE: That's a lot of thought
by Moochman on Sun 28th Feb 2010 10:32 in reply to "That's a lot of thought"
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2005-07-06

But I personally liked the most their plan of allowing you to just drag a whole workspace into 'Pooper' so you can work on it some other day, with all the window contents and data still intact. It's gonna be such a killer feature.


Agreed, assuming it actually works as they expect it to. It's such a new concept that I think it will take a *lot* of user testing and tweaking to make something that is really as awesome as they are hoping. If they just build it and foist it on users based on their own assessments of "what's right", without first doing a lot of iterative testing and redesign to make sure it really is right, it will probably die a slow, horrible death.

I am however very skeptical about the touchpad-corners idea. Even on my ginormous unibody-Macbook trackpad, I still don't really like the idea of parts of it being off-limits. It just seems like it would be too error-prone. Again this is of course something that needs to be tested a lot, maybe it would work better than expected after all and have a huge fan base--but it still strikes me as something that should be disabled by default.

On the whole it is good to see the Gnome 3 team focusing on UI first before they start hacking away... It tells me that something is finally right in the world. ;)

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RE[2]: That's a lot of thought
by WereCatf on Sun 28th Feb 2010 13:20 in reply to "RE: That's a lot of thought"
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2006-02-15

I am however very skeptical about the touchpad-corners idea. Even on my ginormous unibody-Macbook trackpad, I still don't really like the idea of parts of it being off-limits. It just seems like it would be too error-prone. Again this is of course something that needs to be tested a lot, maybe it would work better than expected after all and have a huge fan base--but it still strikes me as something that should be disabled by default.

I'd assume it's off by default and that you can enable/disable all four corner separately as you wish. But you know, those corners aren't really off-limits; while I still had a laptop I had lower right corner function as a right-click. Just one tap there and POOF, right-click. But you could still drag to and from that corner without doing a right-click and as such it wasn't off-limits or hindered the use of it in any way.

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RE: That's a lot of thought
by Morty on Sun 28th Feb 2010 11:58 in reply to "That's a lot of thought"
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2005-07-06

But I personally liked the most their plan of allowing you to just drag a whole workspace into 'Pooper' so you can work on it some other day, with all the window contents and data still intact. It's gonna be such a killer feature.


With the exception of the explicit save function, this is not really something new. I have used this for years, and pretty much have my usage pattern adapted to it. I simply newer close an applications when I still work on stuff, I let the session handling of the desktop take care of it. And it restores the state of my desktops and applications the next time I log in.

One of my PCs at work have one desktop containing a set of Konsole windows, filemanager views, webpages and text files in editors. The application set have been more or less in a permanent state for over 2 years(with countless logouts), but with everything at the ready when I need to work on the project.

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