Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 2nd Mar 2010 17:19 UTC
Legal In a statement released today, Apple announced it is suing HTC, claiming the Taiwanese phone maker infringed upon 20 of Cupertino's patents related to the iPhone. After Nokia and Apple suing one another a number of times over the past couple of months, this is the next high-profile patent lawsuit in the mobile phones business. Engadget has the filings, and it seems that Apple wants to avoid angering Microsoft, but has no qualms about taking on Google. Update: Engadget analyses every single patent in the claim.
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Apple vs MS
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 2nd Mar 2010 17:32 UTC
Bill Shooter of Bul
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2006-07-14

Potential reasons for avoiding MS:

1) Previous cross licensing legal agreements between the two may cover some technologies.

2) Past experience in litigation with MS. (aka once bitten, twice shy)

3) Not wanting to wage war in an arena where MS has been active longer, thus probably has a patent war chest to counter attack.

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RE: Apple vs MS
by Blackadder on Tue 2nd Mar 2010 17:45 in reply to "Apple vs MS"
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2010-02-03

It also helps to beat up the small(er) guys first, establish "validity" of patents in court and then with that precedent take the big guys to the court.

Edited 2010-03-02 17:55 UTC

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RE[2]: Apple vs MS
by melkor on Wed 3rd Mar 2010 06:04 in reply to "RE: Apple vs MS"
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2006-12-16

That's cos Apple is nothing but a bully.

Dave

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RE: Apple vs MS
by hurdboy on Tue 2nd Mar 2010 17:59 in reply to "Apple vs MS"
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2005-09-02

4. Microsoft Office for Mac.

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RE[2]: Apple vs MS
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 2nd Mar 2010 22:57 in reply to "RE: Apple vs MS"
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2006-07-14

Yeah, that too. iWork ( other than keynote) stinks.

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RE: Apple vs MS
by Laurence on Tue 2nd Mar 2010 18:16 in reply to "Apple vs MS"
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2007-03-26

3) Not wanting to wage war in an arena where MS has been active longer, thus probably has a patent war chest to counter attack.


HTC have been active in the smart phone arena longer than Apple

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RE[2]: Apple vs MS - Apple
by jabbotts on Tue 2nd Mar 2010 19:36 in reply to "RE: Apple vs MS"
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2007-09-06

I don't think the comparison is between HTC and Microsoft but rather Apple and Microsoft.

Microsoft has been active in the arena longer than Apple so if Apple started something, Microsoft may have more patents draw on then Apple.

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RE[2]: Apple vs MS
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 2nd Mar 2010 22:55 in reply to "RE: Apple vs MS"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

True enough, and I'd imagine they'll claim Apple has violated some of its patents as well. Still with HTC, its like a tactical border war rather than the nuclear holocaust of going toe to toe with the entire MS patent arsenal.

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Also, WinMo was out long before iPhone.
by MollyC on Tue 2nd Mar 2010 19:49 in reply to "Apple vs MS"
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2006-07-04

Apple can't really argue that WinMo violates iPhone patents. And they likely won't argue it for WinPhone 7 Series, since that looks unlike anything in the phone market.

Regarding the alleged Android infractions against iPhone, I wonder why Apple doesn't go after Google directly rather than going after HTC (as far as the Android issues are concerned); and why Apple singled out HTC amongst all makers of Android phones.

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There are some very old patents involved.
by MollyC on Tue 2nd Mar 2010 21:24 in reply to "Apple vs MS"
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2006-07-04

"Old" being relative to speed of tech world advances; i refer to patents issued in the mid-90's wrt classic MacOS and even a patent originally filed by NeXT. Things like a patent for "Object-Oriented Graphics System" and "Object-Oriented Operating System". Now, IIRC, in the 90's Micrsoft and Apple agreed to a total cross-licensing of all technologies, which would explain why Apple can't go after Microsoft for those older patents, and why WinMo is in the clear.

The patents are absurd, though.

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tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

"Old" being relative to speed of tech world advances; i refer to patents issued in the mid-90's wrt classic MacOS and even a patent originally filed by NeXT. Things like a patent for "Object-Oriented Graphics System" and "Object-Oriented Operating System". Now, IIRC, in the 90's Micrsoft and Apple agreed to a total cross-licensing of all technologies, which would explain why Apple can't go after Microsoft for those older patents, and why WinMo is in the clear.

The patents are absurd, though.


Don't forget the Taligent Patents in there as well.

Those patents are hardly absurd. But I don't expect someone eating for free to care about the time and efforts for the work involved.

Edited 2010-03-02 21:27 UTC

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