Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 3rd Mar 2010 20:21 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
Internet Explorer "With the latest releases of Opera, Google Chrome and Firefox continuing to push the boundaries of the web, the once-dominant Internet Explorer is looking less and less relevant every day. But we should expect Microsoft to go on the offensive at its upcoming MIX 2010 developer conference in Las Vegas, where, it has been speculated, the company will demonstrate the first beta builds of Internet Explorer 9 and possibly offer a preview release of the browser to developers. Several clues point to the possibility that the next version of IE will include broad support for HTML5 elements, vector graphics and emerging CSS standards. If Microsoft plays its cards right in Vegas, IE 9 could be the release that helps IE get its groove back in the web browser game."
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RE: Comment by Kroc
by lemur2 on Wed 3rd Mar 2010 23:00 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
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Microsoft will define HTML5. I know that a majority of developers live on the coattails of Microsoft. If it's not in IE, then it can't go in a site. Microsoft baking in a ton of new features is going to send a shock up these developer's backsides that will take them years to recover from. They will hide behind IE6, 7 & 8 quoting usage figures as an escape from shaping up. If Microsoft cock this up, they will do untold harm to the web, they will derail so much progress wrought with hard work by Firefox, Opera and Safari/Chrome. Microsoft's choice of video codec (or lack thereof) for HTML5 video will decide the HTML5 video / Flash / OGG / H.264 debate. There is no way I can express just how fundamental to change IE9 will be. It is the ticket developers have been waiting for to move the state of web software forward. Microsoft will make or break HTML5. So much rests on their shoulders. I can only hope the market has beaten them with the cluestick for so many years now, they understand what is required--nothing less than full compliance.


I'm thinking that Microsoft is too late. They are just talking about SVG now, over ten years after SVG became the web standard for vector graphics. They still make no mention of compliance and performance for ECMAScript, nor do they mention even DOM2 let alone DOM3.

They have refused to implement these standards many times in the past, even closing off feture requests from their users as "will not implement", and now it appears they are being forced to. They are eating crow, and playing catchup. Their arrogance has caught up to them.

They are so far behind it will take them years to reach parity.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by flanque on Thu 4th Mar 2010 02:23 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
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2005-12-15

With that much money, it's never too late.

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RE[3]: Comment by Kroc
by lemur2 on Thu 4th Mar 2010 03:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Kroc"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

With that much money, it's never too late.


Microsoft don't make money from IE through sales of IE. IE's only real purpose (from a MS financial POV) is to try to lock users in, to make it so that in order to surf the full extent of the web one must use IE. Silverlight is an extension of this ... an attempt to make rich web content available only to users of Microsoft's platform.

To this extent, incompatibility, and non-compliance with web standards are normal fetaures of IE.

It hasn't worked. IE's incompatibility and non-compliance with web standards is driving people away from IE. Even worse, from a Microsoft POV, is that once people wean themselves from IE, they realise that there are alternatives to Microsoft software, and those people find (often to their surprise) that the alternatives are cheaper, have better license terms, faster, more secure and less restrictive than Microsoft's offerings.

People find that they don't need to use Microsoft software at all. They escape from this kind of burden:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9164438/Microsoft_s_security...
http://ostatic.com/blog/improve-internet-health-with-a-microsoft-ta...

(as if there isn't enough Microsoft tax already!)

From a Microsoft POV, that is a disaster for Microsoft (from a user POV it is an enormous relief).

Edited 2010-03-04 03:05 UTC

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