Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 9th Mar 2010 16:58 UTC
Legal We have some very, very good news for Europeans (which happens to include myself): we have the European Parliament on our sides when it comes to battling ACTA. If you may recall, ACTA is basically an attempt by the US to impose upon the rest of the world draconian measures like three strikes laws and the DMCA. All parties within the European Parliament have together put forth a resolution that would effectively tackle ACTA.
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Thom_Holwerda
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2005-06-29

Will you please stop slandering me? I profess the strict letter of Dutch law, and in doing so, I am being perfectly honest and legal. The act of downloading is not illegal in the jurisdiction I live in and have lived in all my life. You are accusing me of criminal activity (namely, piracy, the act of illegally distributing copyrighted content), even though I have done no such thing, and even though I am not promoting any such activity.

If I were to live in the US, you'd have a point. However, since I do not, will you please respect the law of other countries?

I don't take kindly for being branded a criminal, especially not by someone as clueless about copyright such as yourself. Beach of copyright might be considered "theft" in the US, but the US is not the world, and it most certainly isn't The Netherlands.

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

You deserve to be slandered because you clearly support pirates over producers.

I could care less about Dutch law, your position is unprincipled regardless of what is legal in your country. People should be compensated for their work and that is a universal ethic.

You don't think someone who downloads a copyrighted game from a p2p network should face any type of punishment, even after being warned from a previous case. That's being supportive of piracy.

You think governments should just look the other way when it comes to intellectual property.

People that support alternative operating systems should actually be the most supportive of intellectual property laws. Linux and OpenOffice would have far greater support if they didn't have to compete with $0 copies of Windows and Office.

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merkoth Member since:
2006-09-22

You deserve to be slandered because you clearly support pirates over producers.

No, he doesn't.


I could care less about Dutch law, your position is unprincipled regardless of what is legal in your country. People should be compensated for their work and that is a universal ethic.

I think you meant "I couldn't care less" but whatever floats your boat. His position is not unprincipled. As long as he stays in his country, downloading copyrighted material without explicit permission from the copyright holders is legal, whether you like it or not. If he moves to the USA, for example, he would be breaking the law of course.


You don't think someone who downloads a copyrighted game from a p2p network should face any type of punishment, even after being warned from a previous case. That's being supportive of piracy.

Why is that? Consumers can't be sued for purchasing counterfeit goods, why they should be liable for content they aren't distributing in the first place?
I give you the point on P2P, because that actually involves redistributing content you don't actually own.


You think governments should just look the other way when it comes to intellectual property.

People that support alternative operating systems should actually be the most supportive of intellectual property laws. Linux and OpenOffice would have far greater support if they didn't have to compete with $0 copies of Windows and Office.

Are you forgetting that both Windows and Office are chock-full of software patents covering them? Isn't that considered IP too? So, in certain cases duplicating IP should be punished and in others shouldn't? I hate software patents just as many others, but you're contradicting yourself here.

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