Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 28th May 2010 11:40 UTC
Intel One name was conspicuously absent from the list of companies backing Google's WebM project and the VP8 codec. Despite other chip makers and designers being on the list, like AMD, NVIDIA, ARM, and Qualcomm, Intel didn't make an appearance. Yesterday, the company made its first careful commitment to the WebM project.
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RE: Theora gone but not forgotten
by merkoth on Fri 28th May 2010 13:56 UTC in reply to "Theora gone but not forgotten"
merkoth
Member since:
2006-09-22

No, everyone knew that on the technical front Theora was inferior than h.264. The main "virtue" of Theora is its openness and the fact that it doesn't put your rear end up to sale to the MPEG-LA. WebM and VP8 bring the same "virtue" but are also technically stronger, making it a better alternative at the moment.

Or maybe this is just flamebait and I shouldn't have answered.

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merkoth Member since:
2006-09-22

Inferior "to", dammit.

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Preston5 Member since:
2010-03-19

It wasn't flame bait, but an observation. I had written an article a couple months ago about why I think Theora wasn't on par with H.264. Those who disagreed always pointed to unreleased builds (Thusnelda) as the saviour, and even claimed it was better than H.264.

Two months later ... not one mention of Thusnelda. It as if Theora didn't exist. Seeing that Theora does not have the corporate backing like VP8, it is no surprise that Theora has gone down the memory hole.

Now we know why companies use H.264 and why it remains popular. You can't go about standardizing your systems around a format loses mindshare at the drop of a hat.

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smitty Member since:
2005-10-13

It wasn't flame bait, but an observation. I had written an article a couple months ago about why I think Theora wasn't on par with H.264. Those who disagreed always pointed to unreleased builds (Thusnelda) as the saviour, and even claimed it was better than H.264.

Two months later ... not one mention of Thusnelda. It as if Theora didn't exist. Seeing that Theora does not have the corporate backing like VP8, it is no surprise that Theora has gone down the memory hole.

Now we know why companies use H.264 and why it remains popular. You can't go about standardizing your systems around a format loses mindshare at the drop of a hat.

Maybe you ran into some crazy commenters (it's the internet, it happens), but no one seriously thought that Theora was as good as h264. The argument was always that it was "good enough" for web video.

If there were a critical mass of Theora video out there it would be a lot tougher to get rid of, but right now there's so little that it makes sense to drop it and move on to a better alternative. I don't think that corporate support is really the core issue, it's just the # of videos using it (which corporate support can help, of course).

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