Linked by David Adams on Fri 18th Jun 2010 19:17 UTC
Linux Linux Magazine has a profile of Daniel Fore and the Elementary project. Elementary is a Linux distro that's committed to a clean and simple user experience, but it's more than a distro - it's actually a multi-pronged effort to make improvements to the user experience for a whole ecosystem of components, including icons, a GTK theme, Midori improvements, Nautilus, and even Firefox. The work that elementary is doing isn't limited to their own distro, and some of their work is available in current, and perhaps future, Ubuntu releases. The results are really striking, and I think it's probably the handsomest Linux UI I've ever seen.
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RE[4]: Installed it on Ubuntu
by Novan_Leon on Wed 23rd Jun 2010 18:28 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Installed it on Ubuntu"
Novan_Leon
Member since:
2005-12-07

Despite all the anger-vibes going around, I think his comment actually hit the nail on the head about what the problem is with the current desktop Linux. I'm fully command line capable and fairly Linux savvy and still things pop up as problems during regular desktop use that wouldn't otherwise be a problem in Windows or OSX.

A couple years ago I was using Ubuntu and I was doing some image editing and wanted to change the desktop resolution. I open the screen resolution dialog and change the resolution easy enough, but when I chose a resolution that X couldn't handle for whatever reason it crashed the GUI and left me with a command line. I was able to restart X and get it back up and running but this kind of thing just shouldn't happen for normal users. And this is just a simple example, I've had numerous experiences similar to this and the prior gentleman's comments. It's getting better, but I've yet to see a Linux desktop distribution with a refined and robust desktop environment as should be required for the general public.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

A couple years ago I

There has actually been a lot of advances in that period.

but when I chose a resolution that X couldn't handle for whatever reason it crashed the GUI and left me with a command line.


How is this worse than when an XP (since we're talking a few years ago) graphic driver crashes and leave you with a cryptic BSOD?

I've had numerous experiences similar to this and the prior gentleman's comments.

Why do people always pretend there are no problems with Windows or OSX?

I was able to restart X and get it back up and running but this kind of thing just shouldn't happen for normal users.


All OS's crashes, welcome to computing. I guess there is not a single OS that is fit for normal users since all of them crashes now and then.

but I've yet to see a Linux desktop distribution with a refined and robust desktop environment as should be required for the general public.


Funny how Windows was always used by the public even when it had absolutely abysmal robustness.
In terms of robustness todays Linux is no worse (or perhaps also not better) than Windows or OSX.

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Novan_Leon Member since:
2005-12-07

There has actually been a lot of advances in that period.


This was fixed in Windows and OSX over a decade ago. I keep fairly up-to-date with Linux and nothing revolutionary has occurred in the last two years.

How is this worse than when an XP (since we're talking a few years ago) graphic driver crashes and leave you with a cryptic BSOD?


The only difference is that it's never happened to me in 2000, XP, Vista or Windows 7, and I've been using one of these daily for at least the last 10 years. In Linux it happened a couple times to me in the space of several weeks. Given, this is just my experience out of many people's, but I don't think it's outrageous to assume that if it can happen to me it can happen to an average Joe.

Funny how Windows was always used by the public even when it had absolutely abysmal robustness.
In terms of robustness todays Linux is no worse (or perhaps also not better) than Windows or OSX.


Today's desktop Linux is nowhere near as solid as Windows or OSX. I can crash X fairly quickly if I hit the right buttons, but it's almost impossible to take down the Windows or OSX GUI without some pretty fancy technical philandering.

Edited 2010-06-23 20:30 UTC

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