Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Aug 2010 19:14 UTC, submitted by Cytor
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris Due to me not working for OSNews these past eight weeks, I've been a bit out of the loop, as I didn't really follow technology news. I did notice that a lot is going on in OpenSolaris land, and today, Oracle has outlined what it has planned for Solaris 11 - and according to some, the fears about OpenSolaris' future were justified.
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RE[5]: Is it bad? Not really.
by phoenix on Thu 12th Aug 2010 15:34 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Is it bad? Not really."
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2005-07-11

The other issue to consider is that there is a large industry around ZFS-based storage solutions, and absolutely 0 companies using Btrfs as the basis for a storage solution. Someone looking for a turnkey solution, for a simple "plug it in and go" box, it's easy to end up with a box that uses ZFS internally (Nexenta, GreenBytes, even FreeNAS, for example). There's nothing like that available for Btrfs.

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RE[6]: Is it bad? Not really.
by segedunum on Fri 13th Aug 2010 17:27 in reply to "RE[5]: Is it bad? Not really."
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2005-07-06

The other issue to consider is that there is a large industry around ZFS-based storage solutions.......

Is there? I must have blinked because I missed it.

The storage industry consists of established players using things like VxFX and clustered filesystems. Sun came late into the storage market with ZFS hoping to capture some of that established market share as a cheaper alternative, and they've had rather mixed success.

Someone looking for a turnkey solution, for a simple "plug it in and go" box, it's easy to end up with a box that uses ZFS internally (Nexenta, GreenBytes, even FreeNAS, for example).

Hmmmm, so that's what you consider to be a 'storage industry'? I'm afraid installing Nexenta or FreeNAS yourself is not a storage industry.

All (and I mean all) of the 'turnkey', small and cheap commercial NAS and storage boxes I have seen use Linux and generally XFS as filesystem. Not a single one runs Solaris or ZFS. Btrfs already has a ready and established market that Linux itself is already in.

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RE[7]: Is it bad? Not really.
by phoenix on Fri 13th Aug 2010 17:35 in reply to "RE[6]: Is it bad? Not really."
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2005-07-11

Who's talking about "small and cheap" or NAS? That's the home market, not the commercial market.

If it has fewer than 12 drives in it, it's not a storage box worth mentioning here.

Btrfs is nowhere to be found when you get into real storage solutions. The NetApp, EMC, Veritas, Greenbytes market, not the home "2-drives in a box with an ethernet port" market.

You can spend a couple hundred grand for an iSCSI/FC box from NetApp or EMC. Or less for a Greenbytes box using ZFS+. Or less for a Solaris box using ZFS. Or even less for a custom white-box with OSol/FreeBSD using ZFS.

I've yet to see a single product in this area that boasts about using Linux and/or Btrfs.

Sure, maybe Linux has taken over the "2 drives in a box with an ethernet port" market. But who cares? That's not was enterprises, businesses (even medium-sized ones), or even school districts are looking at.

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