Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 19th Sep 2010 21:18 UTC, submitted by gireesh
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris It's been a troubling couple of weeks for Mandriva, but I decided not to report on it since I found it hard to unravel the events leading up to all this. Now, though, the story has come to its (logical) conclusion: now that most of Mandriva's employees have been laid off, they came together and forked Mandriva. Enter Mageia.
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Argh, so unfair...
by djame on Sun 19th Sep 2010 22:40 UTC
djame
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2005-07-08

Mandriva is just the best distro out there... Just try to set up an internet sharing connection from ethernet to firewire (and I use that to connect my mac on this server to backup, firewire network are just way faster, anyway..) on ubuntu and you'll see what I mean....

on another notice, the original poster mentionned the incompetence of mandriva heads but what incompetence ? on generating less reviews, yes certainly.
Just compare the number of reviews any bsd distro or ubuntu get on osnews and just realize the number of reviews mandriva 2010 got, it's almost ridiculous. As long as Mandriva closed its US office a couple of years ago, its memento was gone for some reason. And it's the same for Opensuse anyway, they got far way less reviews, notes and buzz than Ubuntu.

So if Gael Duval ever reads that : go, get your company back and make it works even if that means unfair batlle with giant pocket billionairs.



Djamé

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RE: Argh, so unfair...
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 19th Sep 2010 22:53 in reply to "Argh, so unfair..."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

but what incompetence ? on generating less reviews, yes certainly.


How about wholly incompetent at running a business?

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RE[2]: Argh, so unfair...
by djame on Sun 19th Sep 2010 23:04 in reply to "RE: Argh, so unfair..."
djame Member since:
2005-07-08

"but what incompetence ? on generating less reviews, yes certainly.


How about wholly incompetent at running a business?
"

You mean how about bashing them for failing where redhat, suse, xendros, linwin, gentoo and I can't remember who else failed as well ?
Come on, you know well that without the unlimited funding brought to ubuntu, there will be on the list too.

The problem is not on on how to build the best distro out there but how to build a successfull business model where "customer"'s alpha and omega seems to be "I want the best, I want it now and for free as in speech and as in beer. Please, I'm hurry otherwise I'll get your distro on bittorent and that's it"
So speaking of the incompetence of people who just tried everything as everyone else did is a bit unfair to me. it's like telling to people who can't fly that they suck big time because they can't do as well as superman or as the next billionaire who got some wings greffed on his back.

Edited 2010-09-19 23:06 UTC

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RE[2]: Argh, so unfair...
by danieldk on Mon 20th Sep 2010 09:22 in reply to "RE: Argh, so unfair..."
danieldk Member since:
2005-11-18

Yes they were. I remember being at a trade show (HCC Dagen for Dutch people) ~2000. I was there working at a stand of a Dutch software vendor/distributor. Mandrake flew in some person to sell their product at the same stand. The person was obviously overpaid, knew nothing about their product, and was more concerned about making foreign phone calls (which were expensive in the days).

The suits were brought into Mandrake to early, and they seemed to be mostly concerned with burning cash and doing suit-stuff. They didn't care about the Mandrake community, or too much about the technical side of the distribution.

Red Hat on the other hand, has been governed by enthusiasts for a long time. Sure, they were business people, but they loved the company and the product. And it shows. E.g., when they buy out a company, they are usually quick to opensource the 'intellectual property' and build a community around it. They know that open source software forms the genes of the company, and act according to that.

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