Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Oct 2010 09:13 UTC
Mac OS X After the news that the new MacBook Airs do not ship with Flash pre-installed (which is news considering Flash has been part of Mac OS X for a very long time), we now have news that Apple is also taking what appears to be the first steps towards removing Apple's own Java runtime from Mac OS X.
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Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Thu 21st Oct 2010 09:57 UTC
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As of the release of Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 3, the version of Java that is ported by Apple, and that ships with Mac OS X, is deprecated.

This means that the Apple-produced runtime will not be maintained at the same level, and may be removed from future versions of Mac OS X. The Java runtime shipping in Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, and Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, will continue to be supported and maintained through the standard support cycles of those products.


Thanks for the heads up Thom - I'm not surprised about Java and Flash.

Java has been something I've never been able to understand as to why Apple continued to include it given that it seems to be like the neglected red headed step child of the family rather than something that Apple is really keen to support. Maybe the better thing for Apple to do would be to move their enhancements to the OpenJDK community and allow a third party to continue developing it with the occasional contribution by Apple. I just don't see any benefit to Apple of continuing to develop it given how so few people actually use it in the real world.

As for Flash, it makes sense though given the fiasco in the past of a combo update including an out of date version of Flash with it. Let the customer download and install Flash then let Adobe sort out how they're going to keep their customer up to date. Getting Flash out of the equation for Apple will also reduce the area of attack out of the box as well - its a win-win situation in the end. I wonder though whether it is possible, as part of the 'extension manager' that plugins can be managed and updated through something similar - that when a plugin bundle is installed that it is registered with Safari and there is a dialogue that tracks the version and detects whether there is a newer version available by checking the Adobe server (the details of the update server residing within the plugin bundle in some sort of XML format).

Edited 2010-10-21 10:00 UTC

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RE: Comment by kaiwai
by fatjoe on Thu 21st Oct 2010 14:55 in reply to "Comment by kaiwai"
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2010-01-12

Your line of reasoning reminds me of that guy in the The Onions "new mac" joke:

"I never realized how much I hated keyboards"

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