Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 25th Oct 2010 19:00 UTC, submitted by sjvn
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Well, this is sure to raise a few eyebrows here and there. Today, at the Ubuntu Developer Summit, Mark Shuttleworth held his keynote speech, and in it, he announced that Ubuntu will switch to the Unity user interface come release, for both the netbook as well as the desktop, leaving the GNOME user interface behind (but keeping the GNOME platform).
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RE[4]: Comment by mrAmiga500
by mrAmiga500 on Mon 25th Oct 2010 19:58 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by mrAmiga500"
mrAmiga500
Member since:
2009-03-20

Umm, no, that was not a relevant post. A relevant post would have been something constructive like "I personally don't like the direction that Gnome is going in. I would rather have seen Ubuntu switch to KDE" or something like that.


Read what I said. I said "my comment is more relevant".

"GNOME sure does suck" in a thread about GNOME replacement is CERTAINLY more relevant than "I wanted to take a crap here".

I feel justified in saying "GNOME sure does suck". I've had GNOME crash on me 15 times in a day. I can consistently and repeatedly crash GNOME, just by doing basic things. (and yes, I've submitted bug reports)

The #1 problem with Linux is the incredibly hostile response to anybody who complains about something. It's like Nazi Germany.

Edited 2010-10-25 19:59 UTC

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v RE[5]: Comment by mrAmiga500
by Mellin on Mon 25th Oct 2010 20:30 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by mrAmiga500"
RE[5]: Comment by mrAmiga500
by righard on Mon 25th Oct 2010 20:52 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by mrAmiga500"
righard Member since:
2007-12-26

With all the questions a ask, all the complaints and sugestions I made at the Linux community I NEVER got a hostile repsonse.

But if you communicate to them as you communicate here I'm you have to search the fault closer to home.

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RE[6]: Comment by mrAmiga500
by aaronb on Mon 25th Oct 2010 21:31 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by mrAmiga500"
aaronb Member since:
2005-07-06

I would have to agree. My experience has also been a positive one.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14


I feel justified in saying "GNOME sure does suck". I've had GNOME crash on me 15 times in a day. I can consistently and repeatedly crash GNOME, just by doing basic things. (and yes, I've submitted bug reports)


Now you are justified in saying "GNOME sure does suck". Before you didn't say why you thought it did suck.

The #1 problem with Linux is the incredibly hostile response to anybody who complains about something. It's like Nazi Germany.


No, the #1 problem is ridiculous comments like first one, and then acting surprised when no one wants to hear them and losing the conversation vis a vis goodwin's law.

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RE[6]: Comment by mrAmiga500
by sorpigal on Tue 26th Oct 2010 12:11 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by mrAmiga500"
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

He should not have to justify his opinion. I think GNOME sucks, too, and I don't need every commenter who agrees to spell out exactly what his problems with GNOME are. This should not be a prerequisite to participation.

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RE[5]: Comment by mrAmiga500
by abraxas on Mon 25th Oct 2010 23:36 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by mrAmiga500"
abraxas Member since:
2005-07-07

What version of Gnome? I'm still on 2.30 (Gentoo) but Gnome NEVER crashes on me. Are you talking about the entire desktop, X, the panel, the windowmanager, or what? Maybe it's a distro thing or a version that isn't working properly. The only issue I seem to have is with banshee hanging but it's not even an official part of Gnome.

BTW comapring Linux to Nazi Germany is hyperbole to the Nth degree. It makes you look foolish. Perhaps your distro just sucks. I have very few problems with reporting bugs but I also don't have thin skin.

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RE[5]: Comment by mrAmiga500
by Morgan on Tue 26th Oct 2010 01:33 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by mrAmiga500"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

I think your comment was indeed relevant to the subject matter, however you really should have elaborated, as you did in the post I'm responding to. Otherwise, you appear to be trying to start a flame war (and possibly succeeding).

I've always had a love/hate relationship with GNOME; I was a big fan of 1.x, when many weren't. 2.x sucked at first, then 2.4 made my year. 2.6 went a step backwards for me, and slowly improved again from there. The majority of my experience with GNOME early on was via Slackware, then Debian and Ubuntu after Pat dropped it.

GNOME currently, to me, is like a lump of clay; it's a pile of crap until someone (Canonical, for example) picks it up and shapes it into something useful and beautiful. Someone who never cared for it in the first place (Pat Volkerding) could make it somewhat usable and decent looking, but really didn't put much time and effort into it, so when it became too unwieldy to maintain it had to go.

As for Unity...I don't know. I didn't care for it at all on my netbook, and switched to the default desktop in Ubuntu. It may turn out to be a better fit on big desktops, so there's hope I guess. I haven't used Gnome Shell yet, but from the look of the screenshots and text descriptions, I don't think I'll like it either.

I think in the future I'll stick with XFCE. Canonical's implementation of it is decent, and Slackware's version is pretty much vanilla so it's easy to customize to my liking. Hell, I may even give KDE another go, though not on the netbook; it needs a lot of screen space to really do well in my experience.

Edited 2010-10-26 01:35 UTC

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RE[6]: Comment by mrAmiga500
by abraxas on Tue 26th Oct 2010 11:38 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by mrAmiga500"
abraxas Member since:
2005-07-07

I've always had a love/hate relationship with GNOME; I was a big fan of 1.x, when many weren't. 2.x sucked at first, then 2.4 made my year. 2.6 went a step backwards for me, and slowly improved again from there. The majority of my experience with GNOME early on was via Slackware, then Debian and Ubuntu after Pat dropped it.

GNOME currently, to me, is like a lump of clay; it's a pile of crap until someone (Canonical, for example) picks it up and shapes it into something useful and beautiful.


I have to agree with this sentiment to a degree. I felt the same way about early Gnome and the transition to where we are now. I love Gnome now but not in its default incarnation. I don't use all the standard Gnome apps, theme, or defaults but I have been able to shape it into exactly what I want. My fear is that with Gnome-Shell and possibely other parts of Gnome that are changing, it will become increasingly difficult to alter different parts of the stack.

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RE[5]: Comment by mrAmiga500
by mgl.branco on Tue 26th Oct 2010 14:23 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by mrAmiga500"
mgl.branco Member since:
2009-07-22

Sure other mayor OS focused forums are full of well-informed, helpful and allways polite people.

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