Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Oct 2010 22:33 UTC, submitted by sawboss
In the News "The Russian state plans to revamp its computer services with a Windows rival to reduce its dependence on US giant Microsoft and better monitor computer security, a lawmaker said Wednesday. Moscow will earmark 150 million rubles (3.5 million euros, 4.9 million dollars) to develop a national software system based on the Linux operating system, Russian deputy Ilia Ponomarev told AFP, confirming an earlier report in the Vedomosti daily." Right. I guess this has absolutely nothing to do with this. Want to buy a unicorn?
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RE: cold war
by kaiwai on Thu 28th Oct 2010 01:03 UTC in reply to "cold war"
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2005-07-06

Iran recently found their computers infected with a worm - those who have analysed the worm specific to Windows said that the sophistication of it leads to believe that it was written by a professional possibly on behalf of a government department. Why is it irrational to assume that the US trying to undermine the Iranian nuclear programme through sophisticated cyber attacks? Why is it paranoia therefore that Russia is looking at the Iranian fiasco and realising that ultimately you're at the mercy of foreign company whose loyalty is to a foreign country when the lean is put on them by a government agency?

Russia is simply realising that an over dependence on foreign technology is neither beneficial to them economically or security wise; the day of old dirty soviet style industry is gone and they're working right now to develop their own silicon valley - IIRC it is located just out of Moscow. Part of that will involve having a home grown operating system then maybe some time in the future develop from there into hardware.

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RE[2]: cold war
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Thu 28th Oct 2010 01:52 in reply to "RE: cold war"
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2006-07-14

Yeah, but the threat doesn't come from the fact that Microsoft isn't located in Russia, but that the source is closed. Just using an existing distro of linux would probably be more economical and solve all of their security/paranoia concerns.

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RE[3]: cold war
by Lennie on Thu 28th Oct 2010 04:56 in reply to "RE[2]: cold war"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

The source is not closed to Russia, they get read-access, it just is they can't compile it, Microsoft ships them binaries.

Well, ok, yes, it's closed. :-)

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RE[3]: cold war
by somebody on Thu 28th Oct 2010 05:56 in reply to "RE[2]: cold war"
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

Just using an existing distro of linux would probably be more economical and solve all of their security/paranoia concerns.


and they probably will do exactly that. with some sane defaults for their country. things like better translation, default regional settings, few softwares that match their needs better com to my mind.

Edited 2010-10-28 05:56 UTC

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RE[2]: cold war
by FishB8 on Thu 28th Oct 2010 02:17 in reply to "RE: cold war"
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2006-01-16

Why is it irrational to assume that the US trying to undermine the Iranian nuclear programme through sophisticated cyber attacks?


Because:

1) The US gov't isn't competent enough to integrate interdepartmental network systems, let alone deploy an attack on external networks. The only thing they can do is pay overpriced private security contractors to sift through your email.

2) The Israeles are much more likely to come unglued over a nuclear Iran than anybody else, including the US.

Edited 2010-10-28 02:17 UTC

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RE[3]: cold war
by sorpigal on Thu 28th Oct 2010 14:21 in reply to "RE[2]: cold war"
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

Not everyone in the US government or working for it is incompetent. It's pretty easy to allocate a few million and pay it to a third party programming god to create a one-off of whatever you want.

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RE[2]: cold war
by f0dder on Thu 28th Oct 2010 07:45 in reply to "RE: cold war"
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2009-08-05

Wasn't the worm specific to buggy *siemens* software?

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RE[3]: cold war
by Panajev on Thu 28th Oct 2010 09:09 in reply to "RE[2]: cold war"
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2008-01-09

Deploying a custom OS based on Linux makes sense for security purposes if you do dedicate resources to configure it properly, to learn what its code does, and to keep it up to date over time.

OSS software blindly installed does not guarantee 100% security if you do not take the time to look over its code, understand how it works, how to harden it, the importance of patching it regularly, etc...

Still, if even a bit of that money goes into more Linux technology research and development, the OSS community will benefit.

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