Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 29th Oct 2010 20:48 UTC
Microsoft Most websites glossed over this, but we didn't. Silverlight, once touted as Microsoft's answer to Adobe's Flash, has been retooled from its original purpose. Microsoft is betting big on HTML5 instead, turning Silverlight into the development platform for Windows Phone, and that's it. So... Silverlight is dead - long live Silerlight?
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RE: Good news for HTML5 ...
by nt_jerkface on Fri 29th Oct 2010 23:06 UTC in reply to "Good news for HTML5 ..."
nt_jerkface
Member since:
2009-08-26

Is it just me, or does Microsoft have a habit of changing their minds about which of their technologies that devs should be using.

Meh, Nokia and Novell have done same thing numerous times.


Whatever happened to the .NET compact framework?

It's been dumped for Silverlight lol. I think it was mostly used by CE devs who they want to move to WP7. There is also .net micro.

Like ASP AJAX it probably didn't gain enough of a following to encourage further development.


And getting slightly off-topic, how is WPF coming along? I mean, is it really taking off? I can't recall sampling any apps that use it, unless they're so close to the native Win32 look & feel that I didn't recognize it.


It's a two-fold problem of XP users having a large presence and most applications being started before WPF. A lot of the big Windows programs were started in C++ before .NET existed and would be very expensive to convert to WPF. For a program like winzip it wouldn't matter but itunes would look great in a wpf rewrite.

The decision to use WPF often looks like this:
1. Build a great looking program for Win7/Vista users, but then tweak it so it looks average in XP.
2. Build an average looking program that doesn't need to be tweaked for XP and also doesn't require a newer .net pack.

So if you want to see more #1 then get people off XP. Mono also encourages #2 since it doesn't use WPF.

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RE[2]: Good news for HTML5 ...
by Nelson on Sat 30th Oct 2010 04:30 in reply to "RE: Good news for HTML5 ..."
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29


Whatever happened to the .NET compact framework?


Silverlight on WP7 uses the .NET Compact Framework. So it's still alive.

Desktop SL uses full .NET Framework, minus a lot of class libraries.

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google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

the performance is pretty ass too. I wrote a fairly simple app awhile back, and the ui was rather sluggish when it came to dynamically updating it, and I was on a quad core with 8 gigs of ram. It also had a really long start time, noticably longer then winforms. Finally, it was virtually unusable over terminal services.

It is a really cool idea, but I wouldn't do anything serious in it for another few years when either it gets more mature, or average hardware outpaces it.

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vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

the performance is pretty ass too. I wrote a fairly simple app awhile back, and the ui was rather sluggish when it came to dynamically updating it, and I was on a quad core with 8 gigs of ram.


I'd chalk this as a failed experiment (broken test case?) - I imagine WPF should be pretty fast, since SL gets 60fps on WP7 .

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

WPF performance can be terrible on older version of Windows i.e. older than Windows 7.

In XP I had dog slow performance with VS 2010 (which is in WPF), I researched the problem and came across the solution ... these APIs can be installed on VISTA and XP. Once these were install performance was as comparable as 2005 and 2008.

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