Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th Jan 2011 22:18 UTC, submitted by alinandrei
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu De kogel is door de kerk. After years of focussing entirely on Gtk+ and GNOME, Ubuntu will finally start evaluating Qt applications for inclusion in the defaukt Ubuntu installation. Mark Shuttleworth announced the policy change on his blog today.
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RE: Talk about arrogance
by Soulbender on Tue 18th Jan 2011 22:43 UTC in reply to "Talk about arrogance"
Soulbender
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2005-08-18

Funny how aaron doesnt seem to agree with you.

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RE[2]: Talk about arrogance
by segedunum on Tue 18th Jan 2011 22:52 in reply to "RE: Talk about arrogance"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Funny how aaron doesnt seem to agree with you.

Where do you get that idea from?

...I hope that the message of working together (rather than dictating, for life or otherwise) also spreads.


Edited 2011-01-18 22:52 UTC

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RE[3]: Talk about arrogance
by Soulbender on Tue 18th Jan 2011 23:01 in reply to "RE[2]: Talk about arrogance"
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2005-08-18

Mainly because Aaron is not being acerbic and is open for collaboration. Nowhere does he says that this is like driving a wedge in the desktop world, for example.

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RE[2]: Talk about arrogance
by phoenix on Tue 18th Jan 2011 22:53 in reply to "RE: Talk about arrogance"
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2005-07-11

Did you read the same blog posts I did? Because it sounds like you didn't.

"Mark suggests that Qt developers should start using Canonical's Qt add-on libraries for things like dconf so that Qt apps integrate properly with Ubuntu."

Basically, forking QT, leading to Ubuntu-only QT apps.

"To get applications working together as well as possible, the answer is not to start creating Ubuntu-targeted versions of Qt apps"

Collaborate, don't fork.

"Solving this means working together, not thinking that we are individually capable of coming up with the best ideas ever and that the world should simply bend to our whim of the day."

Which is what Shuttleworth is doing, by shoehorning DConf support into a Canonical fork of QT, instead of working together with QT and/or KDE devs to find a solution to the settings issue.

"As more groups warm to the beauty that is embodied in Qt, I hope that the message of working together (rather than dictating, for life or otherwise) also spreads."

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RE[3]: Talk about arrogance
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 18th Jan 2011 22:59 in reply to "RE[2]: Talk about arrogance"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Which is what Shuttleworth is doing, by shoehorning DConf support into a Canonical fork of QT, instead of working together with QT and/or KDE devs to find a solution to the settings issue.


Yes, and world peace will arrive tomorrow.

This is a very good solution, and is not a fork at al - that's a bunch of FUD bullshit. All this means is giving Qt devs the option of building dconf support into their applications. Said applications will still work fine in any Qt environment, and as such, really can't be called forks. He's not forcing anyone, he's not dictating anyone, he's just saying: look, we're hiring a few devs to work on allowing Qt devs to implement dconf support, and if Qt apps want to make use of that, fine. If not, also fine.

Jesus Christ the anti-Shuttleworth and anti-Ubuntu talk is reaching insane proportions around here.

Edited 2011-01-18 23:00 UTC

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RE[3]: Talk about arrogance
by fran on Tue 18th Jan 2011 23:19 in reply to "RE[2]: Talk about arrogance"
fran Member since:
2010-08-06

This Ubuntu bashing is petty.
Your mother never teach you not to look a gift horse in the mouth?
You do know there is like a gazillion other distros out there?
Guess its true, nobody hates you like your friends.

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