Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th Feb 2011 16:00 UTC, submitted by aa
Multimedia, AV Well, well, well. The MPEG-LA is showing its true colours. After a decade of threatening to patent troll the living heck out of Theora, the company led by a patent troll has now finally put its money where its mouth is. Well, sort of. They don't actually have any patents yet, they're asking people to submit patents they believe are essential to the VP8 specification. Update: MPEG (so not the MPEG-LA) has announced its intent to develop a new video compression standard for the web which will be royalty-free. "The new standard is intended to achieve substantially better compression performance than that offered by MPEG-2 and possibly comparable to that offered by the AVC Baseline Profile. MPEG will issue a call for proposals on video compression technology at the end of its upcoming meeting in March 2011 that is expected to lead to a standard falling under ISO/IEC 'Type-1 licensing', i.e. intended to be 'royalty free'."
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RE[2]: M(umblety)Peg
by fretinator on Fri 11th Feb 2011 18:00 UTC in reply to "RE: M(umblety)Peg"
fretinator
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I know you're surprised, but I have to disagree on this one. I think the cat is already out of the bag, and the Internet (aka, Tubes) is responsible. Secrets are just too darn hard to keep, and the price of trying is not really worth it. Yes, the cart will keep on rolling down the street awhile, but the wheels are falling off. I don't think there will be a revolution, or massive law change. It just won't work. But I'm not saying daisies will suddenly sprout. The corps will find a new model, and they will still make massive amounts of money. I think the patent system will not be the way. I'm not sure what will, but a new one will arise. So this cart is falling apart, but there's a new one at the next stop.

And by the way, Linux IS a really good example. There was no year of the Linux desktop, and yet it is taking over the marketplace, it's everywhere. It's not on the desktop (much), but it's on the all the devices people are running out to buy. No one voted it in, there were no big transactions - it just kinda took over. Same thing here.

Edited 2011-02-11 18:04 UTC

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RE[3]: M(umblety)Peg
by silix on Sat 12th Feb 2011 16:31 in reply to "RE[2]: M(umblety)Peg"
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2006-03-01

I know you're surprised, but I have to disagree on this one. I think the cat is already out of the bag, and the Internet (aka, Tubes) is responsible. Secrets are just too darn hard to keep, and the price of trying is not really worth it.

your post is made invalid by being based on a wrong assumption...
a patent is NOT made to keep a technology, a design/implementation detail or (in general) an "invention", secret - a patent is made and applied for, to make MONEY by binding those who need to reuse that same invention, and is DISCLOSED and PUBLISHED in order to do
thus a patent in the exact contrary of a secret...

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RE[4]: M(umblety)Peg
by fretinator on Mon 14th Feb 2011 15:46 in reply to "RE[3]: M(umblety)Peg"
fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

A few clarifications:

1. I realize the patent isn't secret, but until then, everything must be carefully guarded. In addition, having read patents, they seem to have a special "encryption" of their own, if you know what I mean.

2. In addition, I was also talking about the larger issues of IP, DRM and trade secrets. This applies to the super-duper key Sony has for the PS3.

3. Lastly, I also think the term secret can also apply to the process of hoarding, or "secreting away" something. The U.S. economy is based on hoarding, such as that done by the U.S. drug companies. They desperately need to keep others, especially around the world, from re-creating their process.

4. In the case of DRM, the content industry is desperately trying to keep something secret that allows them to control the content. This is certainly an area where the secrets do not last very long.

5. Back on topic, I think the real secret being hidden in regard to MPEG-LA and software patents in general, is that the processes involved are truly algorithms that have no business being patented in the first place. It is this landmine of "secrets" that is doing the most damage to innovation in technology.

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