Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th Feb 2011 23:02 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "There's just one problem, though: the 'nine young investors' don't really exist - according to the last tweet on the @NokiaPlanB Twitter account, it was all a hoax perpetuated by 'one very bored engineer who really likes his iPhone'. Ouch."
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RE: I like WP7
by Lennie on Thu 17th Feb 2011 11:12 UTC in reply to "I like WP7"
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What I don't understand is: why should I create code for just one platform ?

When I can use something like phonegap which runs on pretty much any mobile and I can use JS/CSS/HTML to build my app. I can upload it to all the appstores. And reuse a lot of that code on the server (nodejs) and on my website.

Why get stuck in just one environment ?

Let's say I make a small casual game.

I have a website where people can play it online which is ad supported, it has a few buttons for each mobile-device-environment where people can purchase a touchscreen-optimised version for their smartphone/other internet device (like ipad).

All I need to do is make use of the HTML5-cache-manifest and session- and localstorage and get approved by the appstore maintainer ones (1!) and updates are automatically downloaded from the same site where the game is running.

Facebook made the same decision for their app.

Edited 2011-02-17 11:31 UTC

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RE[2]: I like WP7
by lucas_maximus on Thu 17th Feb 2011 11:28 in reply to "RE: I like WP7"
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Why get stuck in just one environment ?

Because the environment is bloody good.

I had to go back to doing some PHP code for my personal website ... and boy did I miss using .NET and Visual Studio. I was pretty much ended up manually hacking with VIM on the box.

Even just doing HTML, CSS and JS is vastly easier than any other IDE I have ever used.

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RE[3]: I like WP7
by Lennie on Thu 17th Feb 2011 11:58 in reply to "RE[2]: I like WP7"
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I'm glad you like it. I just don't want to get caught in a vendor-only (like Microsoft-only) environment ever again.

You that IE6 problem people talk about ? That is exactly the same problem. I'm Not interrested.

The game with Microsoft and others is called vendor lockin, I'm not playing.

Edited 2011-02-17 12:00 UTC

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RE[3]: I like WP7
by segedunum on Thu 17th Feb 2011 14:13 in reply to "RE[2]: I like WP7"
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I had to go back to doing some PHP code for my personal website ... and boy did I miss using .NET and Visual Studio.

I've been through .Net and Visual Studio for web applications, and God, is it tedious. That's why we all moved to Ruby and Rails where I work.

The most tedious part of any .Net application is the deployment though. It's bloody awful.

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RE[2]: I like WP7
by JohnJJ on Thu 17th Feb 2011 13:16 in reply to "RE: I like WP7"
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What I don't understand is: why should I create code for just one platform ?

I wasn't out to tell you what you should or shouldn't do. You can do exactly as you please and if your are happy with it, then good for you. It even looks like someone is working on making PhoneGap support WP7, so soon you'll have one extra platform to deploy to.

My problem is basically this: Someone on the internet is wrong! In this case it actually seems that most of the internet is wrong. All over the place I read misinformed articles, where people think that WP7 is WinMobile in disguise, or that MS is gonna usurp Nokia and take over it's mobile division, etc. ad nauseum.
If people bothered to inform themselves, they would know that WP7 is a brand spanking new platform, with absolutely no ties to WinMo (a fact that people are also comlaining about btw). And I really hope that MS will keep away from the hardware business, I even think that they should let different hardware manufactures produce x-boxes and just provide minimum specs and software.

As an old-school developer, then whole web thing doesn't really interest me, not that I don't do web development, but I just don't find the platform very interesting or satisfying, and no, HTML5 is not going to change that. When I can run C++ or C# in a browser, then I'll be happy, but dynamically typed languages (javascript and friends) pisses me off. This also means that very few web oriented companies, google, facebook, others, have my interest. Sure they solve interesting tasks like running 100.000+++ servers and probably do some fun algorithm stuff, but their focus is just too narrow.

Hardware really doesn't interest me at all, which also means that Apple, as the hardware company it is, doesn't interest me at all. They make nice products, but that is it.

I dislike many of the business decisions that MS makes as much as everybody else, but on the other hand I love them for being such a truly amazing software company. I absolutely love the work that they are doing a MS Research, it is amazing what they let them work on: AI, protein folding, compiler research, algorithms, just to name a few CS related things, but there is also a lot of quite esoteric stuff going on. It may not be in the name of science, but very few companies are doing anything like it.

I think I got side tracked there. Hmmm...


P.s. Since this is OSNews I just wanted to mention that I've tried other OSes than windows. I was a huge fan of OS/2 Warp. I have tried Linux many times, but it always ended in frustration (this was before Ubuntu, I hear things are better now). Of course I used dos back in the day and I also spent some time on old Macs (I need 2 mouse buttons!!!)

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RE[3]: I like WP7
by Lennie on Thu 17th Feb 2011 18:41 in reply to "RE[2]: I like WP7"
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I'm sure R&D departments do a lot of interresting work, but I don't think Microsoft has profited much from it.

Because which core product have they created them selfs instead of buying a company or needing to get people from outside the company ?

DOS was bought, Excel and Visio are bought, Windows NT was made by people who came from outside of the company, SQL-server was bought and so on.

I'm probably just biased, my work sometimes entails dealing with the internals of Microsoft software or data generated by Microsoft software. And it never is pretty.

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