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PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "There's just one problem, though: the 'nine young investors' don't really exist - according to the last tweet on the @NokiaPlanB Twitter account, it was all a hoax perpetuated by 'one very bored engineer who really likes his iPhone'. Ouch."
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RE[2]: I like WP7
by lucas_maximus on Thu 17th Feb 2011 11:28 UTC in reply to "RE: I like WP7"
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

Why get stuck in just one environment ?


Because the environment is bloody good.

I had to go back to doing some PHP code for my personal website ... and boy did I miss using .NET and Visual Studio. I was pretty much ended up manually hacking with VIM on the box.

Even just doing HTML, CSS and JS is vastly easier than any other IDE I have ever used.

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RE[3]: I like WP7
by Lennie on Thu 17th Feb 2011 11:58 in reply to "RE[2]: I like WP7"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I'm glad you like it. I just don't want to get caught in a vendor-only (like Microsoft-only) environment ever again.

You that IE6 problem people talk about ? That is exactly the same problem. I'm Not interrested.

The game with Microsoft and others is called vendor lockin, I'm not playing.

Edited 2011-02-17 12:00 UTC

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RE[4]: I like WP7
by lucas_maximus on Thu 17th Feb 2011 13:21 in reply to "RE[3]: I like WP7"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I'm glad you like it. I just don't want to get caught in a vendor-only (like Microsoft-only) environment ever again.

You that IE6 problem people talk about ? That is exactly the same problem. I'm Not interrested.

The game with Microsoft and others is called vendor lockin, I'm not playing.


IE6 gained soo much market share because there wasn't a better free alternative at the time. Mozilla Suit sucked and didn't work properly, NetScape was slower. It wasn't until 3 years after IE6's release that a better browser for nothing turned up.

It doesn't matter what platform you develop on you will be locked into that platform in some way. Write for QT, you end up being locked into QT in some way, if you write your software in PHP you will be locked into PHP (facebook is an example of this and they had to develop HipHop to solve performance issues).

So my software is locked into the .NET platform which has been backwards compatible for the last 7 years and is going to remain like for the foreseeable future ... I don't see that as a big deal personally.

Edited 2011-02-17 13:24 UTC

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RE[3]: I like WP7
by segedunum on Thu 17th Feb 2011 14:13 in reply to "RE[2]: I like WP7"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

I had to go back to doing some PHP code for my personal website ... and boy did I miss using .NET and Visual Studio.

I've been through .Net and Visual Studio for web applications, and God, is it tedious. That's why we all moved to Ruby and Rails where I work.

The most tedious part of any .Net application is the deployment though. It's bloody awful.

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RE[4]: I like WP7
by JohnJJ on Thu 17th Feb 2011 14:42 in reply to "RE[3]: I like WP7"
JohnJJ Member since:
2011-01-28

I've been through .Net and Visual Studio for web applications, and God, is it tedious. That's why we all moved to Ruby and Rails where I work.


I couldn't agree more actually. ASP.Net Forms, which is what I assume you are referring to, was just a major blunder from MS. Trying to make a desktop development model work over http, with the ugly hack that view state is, was a seriously bad idea.

MVC however is what the MS web kids are using these days and it is sooooooo much better.

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RE[4]: I like WP7
by lucas_maximus on Thu 17th Feb 2011 22:20 in reply to "RE[3]: I like WP7"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I've been through .Net and Visual Studio for web applications, and God, is it tedious. That's why we all moved to Ruby and Rails where I work.

The most tedious part of any .Net application is the deployment though. It's bloody awful.


With a ASP.NET Website you just upload the files ... and they are recompiled on the fly ... are you serious?

I never needed to deploy more than a couple of versions of a ASP.NET webapp but I googled it ...

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/f735abw9.aspx

Oh ... a few lines of in the command prompt ... fuck me must be mind bending.

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