Linked by David Adams on Thu 3rd Mar 2011 20:23 UTC, submitted by Amy Bennett
Hardware, Embedded Systems IDC's newest survey of server vendors shows boxes running every kind of operating system -- except Unix -- sold more during the last three months of 2010. Sales of Linux servers rose 29 percent; Windows rose 16.8 percent, but most surprisingly, sales of mainframes shot up 69 percent " the highest growth rate IDC ever found on mainframes.
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How accurate can this be?
by chekr on Thu 3rd Mar 2011 21:41 UTC
chekr
Member since:
2005-11-05

In some cases the server vendor owns the OS (IBM & Oracle). How much can we rely on the accuracy of the numbers they report?

Does this take into account systems sold with no OS? Many large companies would have site licenses / support contracts and would not necessarily order the server with an OS installed. Others may be using freely available Linux distro's, a BSD or something else.

Does anyone have any idea how IDC account for the above?

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RE: How accurate can this be?
by Elv13 on Fri 4th Mar 2011 06:42 in reply to "How accurate can this be?"
Elv13 Member since:
2006-06-12

Good luck installing a free distro on a mainframe or even a big workstation. Even when possible, like for ProLiant/HP Zseries or PowerPC/SPARC servers, you lose your warrenty if you do that, you can't have support when you need it. This is just not an option for most managers buying these things.

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reflect Member since:
2007-07-10

Good luck installing a free distro on a mainframe or even a big workstation. Even when possible, like for ProLiant/HP Zseries or PowerPC/SPARC servers, you lose your warrenty if you do that, you can't have support when you need it. This is just not an option for most managers buying these things.


You don't lose your warranty. At best you might lose some OS support from the vendor, if they even have that, but anyone going this route would get support from the community, hiring a company with techs for that particular OS or having the support in-house.

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RE[2]: How accurate can this be?
by _QJ_ on Fri 4th Mar 2011 13:44 in reply to "RE: How accurate can this be?"
_QJ_ Member since:
2009-03-12

As I am working in an international company, we are buying HW (big iron). IT/IS staff install themself and support, any OS required : Windows, Linux, BSD, ESX, etc.

And I really wonder if IDC does take this situation into account.

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turrini Member since:
2006-10-31

Here we have a lot of big irons, all of them running Debian.

We still have warranty on hardware.

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gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

Bullshit.

We bought hundreds of HP and IBM servers and workstation with no OS pre-installed and used our RedHat and Microsoft site licenses to install them - and we never, and let me make it absolutely clear, NEVER, had any issues with warranty.

I greatly doubt that big companies use pre-installed as opposed to rolling using their own server/workstation/desktop images - be that for Windows or Linux.

- Gilboa

Edited 2011-03-05 09:55 UTC

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