Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 7th Mar 2011 19:31 UTC, submitted by Debjit
Gnome I have to admit I've been struggling with this one for a while, most importantly because I haven't used GNOME 3 yet; I'm setting up my own little company right now, so time's a little short. As such, all I can do here is cover the arguments given - which, in my book, have both their strong as well as their weak points. Yes, GNOME 3 will not have buttons for minimising or maximising windows.
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RE[2]: Comment by zizban
by lucas_maximus on Mon 7th Mar 2011 20:16 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by zizban"
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

http://tmrepository.com/trademarks/youdontneedthat/

Really ... The attitude of "I don't need title bars ... so therefore you don't", isn't exactly helpful.

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RE[3]: Comment by zizban
by Zifre on Mon 7th Mar 2011 21:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by zizban"
Zifre Member since:
2009-10-04

http://tmrepository.com/trademarks/youdontneedthat/

Really ... The attitude of "I don't need title bars ... so therefore you don't", isn't exactly helpful.

I agree that removing title bars is unrealistic for the general population (I wouldn't even do it!), but linking to TM Repository kind of takes away all your credibility...

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RE[4]: Comment by zizban
by Neolander on Tue 8th Mar 2011 09:12 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by zizban"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

I agree that removing title bars is unrealistic for the general population (I wouldn't even do it!), but linking to TM Repository kind of takes away all your credibility...

Especially when he's doing it all the time, using it as a replacement for proper argumentation...

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RE[3]: Comment by zizban
by aftermath on Mon 7th Mar 2011 21:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by zizban"
aftermath Member since:
2010-10-29

I’m pretty sure that the commenter to whom you’re replying doesn’t need title bars.

I’m pretty sure that the comment to which you’re responding isn’t suggesting that other people don’t title bars simply because this one person doesn’t need them. Moreover, I’m pretty sure that the commenter wasn’t even trying to imply that either. Rather, that commenter was responding to the inquiry “On what planet does this make sense?”, and I’m sure that the take away message from his comment is “mine”.

Moreover, I think that the principle that you’re invoking, while a good one, has been applied to the wrong ancestor in this threat. I’m pretty sure that the parent commenter was implying that this made no sense to him and therefore shouldn’t make sense to anybody. If I’m right, then you’re principled condemnation was ironically misplaced. If I’m wrong, then you’re response was altogether unwarranted. However, thank you for reminding us to be sensible.

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RE[4]: Comment by zizban
by zizban on Mon 7th Mar 2011 21:26 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by zizban"
zizban Member since:
2005-07-06

What I was saying was, you'll still have bars minus a button. What is the point of just having that wasted space? Make the title bar tabular if you want to go there.

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RE[3]: Comment by zizban
by somebody on Tue 8th Mar 2011 00:49 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by zizban"
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

really? and your attitude prevents him to express his preference? he never said everyone should switch to his setup

mine are even more unready for average user

i didn't disable my titlebar, but i disabled whole lot of other things, including minimize.

i don't use nautilus for desktop, just to have it clean
i don't have applications menu, gnome-do with custom shortcut
since i don't use minimize, i don't need window list
i abolished panel launchers long ago
i only have top panel in right corner just to fit notification bar

this setup sure is damn fun when i see when people sit behind my computer and try to do anything, now the idea with disabling titlebar will make it even more interesting.

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RE[4]: Comment by zizban
by TheGZeus on Tue 8th Mar 2011 01:13 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by zizban"
TheGZeus Member since:
2010-05-19

Whoa, whoa...
I think you're misunderstanding the discussion.

Take a breath, then a look at your English textbook.

I'm not trying to insult you, I'm just saying I think you're not quite understanding what either party is saying.
A few words here-and-there can cause large shifts in meaning.


Example:
"Bio?

No, thanks. Not a vegetarian"
huh? What does that mean?

Edited 2011-03-08 01:15 UTC

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