Linked by Dedoimedo on Thu 17th Mar 2011 23:17 UTC
Debian and its clones Writing about Debian is not a simple thing. You know it's the giant that has spawned pretty much every other distro out there. It's almost like a Roman Empire, almost a taboo. Furthermore, it's not a desktop distro per se. It's more sort of a template you use to build your platform. It's also a SOHO server distro, therefore it more fits into the business category, comparable to CentOS and similar.
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Horrible review.
by UltraZelda64 on Thu 17th Mar 2011 23:50 UTC
UltraZelda64
Member since:
2006-12-05

"The installer has four million steps, it's clunky and too detailed."

"After seven thousand clicks during the partition setup, the system finally started copying files and took a merry one hour to do that, three to four times more than a typical contemporary distro."


I must have a complete inability to count, because I sure as hell didn't notice "four million steps" or having to click "seven thousand" times to install.


"What is the point of having a millennium-long development cycle only to churn out a product that merely has a higher kernel major and little else besides?"

I wasn't aware that Debian Squeeze took a millennium to be released. In fact, I was under the impression that it was only about two years? Really, these "slow release" slams toward Debian stemmed from the days of Debian 3.0 and 3.1--that's f***ing 2002-2005, this is 2011. Big difference, Debian releases have been somewhat steady at 2-3 years between releases, which IMO is not bad at all (though the included software does eventually begin to feel old after a year or more).

And if you read DistroWatch's page for Debian, you would see that far more has been upgraded than the kernel:

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian


I have been using Squeeze since maybe a month before it's been released, and it's been rock-solid. And I just started the screenshot tool--and it worked. What a shock. No, I didn't bother reading this whole "review" because it sounds like someone just wants to bitch. Go ahead, enjoy your Ubuntu. But you better pray nothing happens to Debian, because your precious distro as well as its countless derivatives would most likely be unable to stand on its own in its absence.

This isn't a review. It's a bitch-fest.

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RE: Horrible review.
by Morgan on Fri 18th Mar 2011 03:01 in reply to "Horrible review."
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

"The installer has four million steps, it's clunky and too detailed."

"After seven thousand clicks during the partition setup, the system finally started copying files and took a merry one hour to do that, three to four times more than a typical contemporary distro."


I must have a complete inability to count, because I sure as hell didn't notice "four million steps" or having to click "seven thousand" times to install.


Hyperbole is a bitch. I was put off by it too. Even though I had a similar experience as the reviewer, I didn't get quite so frustrated. After all, there are hundreds of other distros that may be a better fit for me and my hardware.

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RE: Horrible review.
by Flatland_Spider on Fri 18th Mar 2011 05:07 in reply to "Horrible review."
Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

Debian Squeeze took a millennium to be released


The reviewer probably confused Debian with CentOS 6.

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RE: Horrible review.
by sorpigal on Fri 18th Mar 2011 12:53 in reply to "Horrible review."
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

The funniest part is that after failing to get the screenshot tool to run by clicking the button the reviewer didn't try another tool and didn't check that the tool he tried was even installed, he didn't seek support, nor did he troubleshoot in any way. Instead he went through the inconvenience of screenshot by camera instead of taking 2 minutes to fix his problem.

This is not a user of any previous version of Debian who is reviewing squeeze to show what's changed. This is someone who doesn't like Debian seems out to make Debian look bad. It's all inflammatory and hostile drivel.

I'm glad he was unable to get Debian to work and ran away crying. If all you want to do is complain about how Debian isn't Ubuntu then you should clearly be using Ubuntu.. Go enjoy your half-finished piece of crap distro! Have fun reinstalling every 6 months because online upgrades are b0rked and old versions become unsupported quickly. Don't bother us happy Debian users with your whining.

Edited 2011-03-18 13:08 UTC

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RE[2]: Horrible review.
by Barnabyh on Sun 20th Mar 2011 01:01 in reply to "RE: Horrible review."
Barnabyh Member since:
2006-02-06

He could've just installed scrot.

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