Linked by Dedoimedo on Thu 17th Mar 2011 23:17 UTC
Debian and its clones Writing about Debian is not a simple thing. You know it's the giant that has spawned pretty much every other distro out there. It's almost like a Roman Empire, almost a taboo. Furthermore, it's not a desktop distro per se. It's more sort of a template you use to build your platform. It's also a SOHO server distro, therefore it more fits into the business category, comparable to CentOS and similar.
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by Icaria on Fri 18th Mar 2011 04:08 UTC
Icaria
Member since:
2010-06-19

Debian hasn't given me any issues but then I don't use Gnome and avoid wireless networking like the plague. The installer has never struck me as being that verbose, either.

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RE: . - image stamp versus full installer
by jabbotts on Mon 21st Mar 2011 21:17 in reply to "."
jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Ubuntu's installer benefits mostly from being a simple image stamp. It just takes the liveCD's image and writes to the hard drive after asking you minimal questions like prefered language and if it should use the whole disk or part of it. All the packages and kernel modules (drivers) are already in the liveCD's image. It does not offer software from the full potential library until after the initial install; your first stage is going to be what's been chosen for you.

To use Word as an example; it's like saving a pre-written letter to your documents directory.

Debian is primarily a full install distribution so it's installer is more like classic Windows. You boot the machine off the install disk, answer questions about location, hardware, hard drive partitioning, software selection and you get your own install from several different potential end results. The installer has to setup the hard drive, detect hardware and pull your choice of software packages from the full potential library.

To use Word again, this is like first transcribing the letter by selecting a page worth of short quotes from the several pages of a book then saving the resulting letter to your hard drive.

One really can't compare and criticize a full install process for not being a liveCD stamped image install process.

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Icaria Member since:
2010-06-19

Firstly, I'm not really sure why you replied to me.

Secondly, there's no reason why Debian can't just force you to use a bunch of defaults, regardless of whether the installation media is a compressed full install, or just kernel+toolchain+apt+install scripts. There's a good number of reasons why they shouldn't but that's another discussion. Likewise, there's nothing prohibiting a live CD install from modifying just about any setting during the install, or automatically removing packages post-install.

Thirdly, a live CD still has to partition the local install media and detect your hardware.

And fourthly, the Word analogy is torturous.

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