Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 23rd Apr 2011 10:20 UTC
Internet & Networking You know all that talk about net neutrality in the US? How for instance Verizon and Google want net neutrality to apply only to something they call the 'wired' internet, which is apparently somehow different from the 'mobile' internet? Well, while you Americans are only talking about it, us Dutch are once again way ahead of the curve: the largest of the three main carriers has announced its intention to start charging extra for services like VoIP, instant messaging, Facebook, and so on, with the other two carriers contemplating similar moves. The dark future of the web, right here in my glorified swamp.
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As far I'm concerned...
by Arawn on Sat 23rd Apr 2011 12:20 UTC
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... it's simple. Stop using mobile and even land networks. Although I need some kind of connection to work, as a private person I don't.

If my employer expects me to be able to connect off company premises, it should provide me with the means.

As a private person, it's all and nice to be able to surf the Web and play games, but I really don't need it to live.

Voice operators that have also Internet services should have adapted ages ago. Voice lines are dying and everyone has known it for at least 10 years. You just have to look how mobile networks work to see that. GSM and subsequent tecnologies (GPRS/EDGE, UMTS, etc) all work digitally, so they carry data. It really doesn't matter much if it's voice or not. Semantics.

Now, I do agree that the amount of data carried through the networks has grown immensely. But so what? So have the technologies for data communication. Who would have thought of having a 24Mbit/s connection at home just 5 years ago? OK, the investment for the carriers to have those technologies is big. But I also think that for normal use, a home user doesn't need to have more than 8Mbit/s. It's enough. It's nice to be able to download faster, but it also depends on the other side, so it's enough.

People want more. More, more, more... even if they waste it. More! The amount of food wasted in restaurants, the amount of pollution coming from our cars because we can't get out sooner 5 minutes and accelerate to be on time, when would save a lot of fuel and produce less pollution if we drove slower.

Want to charge for discriminated contents? Do it. I won't pay. I would prefer to pay for books, driving to friends' houses or metting them somewhere. Social networks? They have their uses, but they aren't Life. Movies online? I won't die if I watch less movies.

I just don't understand people living online and needing all this traffic.

As for these carriers trying to artificially get more money at the cost of their customers, you will die a slow death. Just look at the music "industry".

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RE: As far I'm concerned...
by Laurence on Tue 26th Apr 2011 11:06 in reply to "As far I'm concerned..."
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I don't think you can lay the entire blame on consumers. The reason technology advances as such a pace is simply because companies are trying to bring in new customers. In a world where nearly everyone has a TV, internet and mobile phone, the only way you can get new customers is to either:
* build bigger TV screens, more powerful mobile phones and faster internet
* or sell cheaper phone and internet contracts.

Seeming as it's hard to compete in price and still turn a profit, many businesses turn to offering the next most powerful device to attract customers.

At the end of the day, the global economy is dependant on consumers continually upgrading. Take the Ninento example on the front page: most people who want a Wii already own a Wii. So Nintendo either have to face slumping profits or release a new console. If Nintendo choose not to upgrade, then they will eventually go out of business and employees will lose their job. If everyone stopped upgrading their phone or buying new TVs, then Samsung would very quickly run into financial difficulty. And if all these companies went under then unemployment would rise. When unemployment rises even less people are in the position to buy luxuries from electronics to alcohol. So job cuts rise further which leads to even less spending and even more job cuts in turn.

Like it or not, our global economy is as dependant on new technology enticing new consumers as it is us consumers buying up the latest greatest piece of plastic indulgence.

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