Linked by Conrad Voorsanger on Thu 2nd Jun 2011 16:28 UTC
Original OSNews Interviews OSNews sat down with Ian Seyler, the Founder and Lead Programmer at Return Infinity, the maker and sponsor of Baremetal OS, a 64-bit OS for x86-64 based computers written entirely in Assembly. Editor's note: We'd love to do similar interviews with the people behind other alternative or hobby OS projects. If there's a project that you'd like to learn more about, let us know.
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RE[2]: GNUstep
by Hypnos on Fri 3rd Jun 2011 02:05 UTC in reply to "RE: GNUstep"
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1) I believe that GNUstep has changed from reimplementing OpenStep to tracking OSX, so that one can write portable programs for both the Linux and Mac platforms. I think that's interesting.

2) By your logic, OSNews shouldn't cover any of the obscure OS projects either, such as BareMetal. If OSNews isn't doing that, then it has no reason to exist -- just read ArsTechnica.

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RE[3]: GNUstep
by twitterfire on Sat 4th Jun 2011 18:38 in reply to "RE[2]: GNUstep"
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By your logic, OSNews shouldn't cover any of the obscure OS projects either, such as BareMetal. If OSNews isn't doing that, then it has no reason to exist -- just read ArsTechnica.

That's exactly my point. I had a fair portion of obscure and non obscure operating systems, during my studies at the Univesity.

I would understand the emphasis of some obscure operating system, given two conditions:

1. the said obscure operating systems have technical merits
2. the articles on the site are presented from a scientific point of view and targeted towards OS programmers and OS architects

The typical article on OSnews is targeted to masses and hordes. Is trying to popularize operating systems science like Popular Science is trying to popularize science.

Physicists and mathematicians generally despise Popular Science because it trivializes the science.

OSnews isn't targeted to specialists and the articles are written by guys who don't have a clue about Operating Systems.

I respect Thom Holverda, but he doesn't have a clue about the inner works of operating systems.

He can write about GUI, feature X, feature Y and so on. Which is alright if you are targeting the masses like OSnews.

I think is ok and OSnews should resume on the general points of view about Apple, Windows, Linux, Haiku, Reactos, Syllable and gadgets and H264 vs VP8, and Internet Freedom and Sony.

You know, light talk about Operating Systems and Internet and gadgets.

However, when you try to cross the line and talk about obscure operating systems, you shoud at least have a clue about what an OS really is. Not the case here. I this was targeted about specialists, we wouldn't talk about every guy who pulled another os written in asm from his ass.

We would talk about serious business like monolithic kernel versus micro kernel, we would talk about L4 and L4/Fiasco, we would talk about UNIX, Plan 9, Inferno, distributed operating systems, NT architecture, BSD architecture.

We would interview guys like Andy Tanenbaum, Donald Knuth, scientists from MIT, the guys from L4, someone from FreeBSD or NetBSD kernel team, Theo de Raadt from OpenBSD and a lot of scientists from Windows Team @ Microsoft. And some from former Bell Labs and some from IBM and some from former SUN.

Brian Kernighan, Donald Knuth and Andy Tanenbaum would laugh about operating systems written in assembler pulled from someone's ass. I mean, is great that some guy has a passion and he writes a kernel and a cli. As I forgot a lot of things from my operating system design classes, and I forgot coding in ASM, I can write a functional kernel&cli in less than a month in C. It's a trivial task. In fact me and my colleagues were asked to write a trivial OS for our exams 10 years ago. So we did.

So OSnews, either you are light and talk about mainstream OSes and general usability, either you talk about serious business, but please interview and ask people who know and can give a qualified answer. Not yet just another ASM os.

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RE[4]: GNUstep
by M.Onty on Sun 5th Jun 2011 20:29 in reply to "RE[3]: GNUstep"
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I get the impression this post has been modded heavily up and down in near equal measure.

An interview with Knuth would be great, mind.

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