Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Jun 2011 18:51 UTC
Internet & Networking It's official now. The signs had been there for a while now. While the west bangs on about the importance of freedom and democracy, they don't actually want anyone to have too much of it. The US, France, and the UK have jointly pretty much declared war on freedom on the web.
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RE[2]: Chile not west?
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 9th Jun 2011 20:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Chile not west?"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Thom, why you are not counting Chile as a western country?


Because I strongly believe South American countries - and the continent as a whole - is far too different and unique (in a good way) to be counted as a traditionally western region. South America kind of does its own thing down there, has its own unique collection of cultures and characteristics that set it apart from the rest of the world - again, in a good way.

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RE[3]: Chile not west?
by JoaoC on Thu 9th Jun 2011 21:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Chile not west?"
JoaoC Member since:
2011-06-09

So them you can say that West Europe is not west as well! Because Culturally and ideologically speaking there is minor difference, just geographical displacement. You also have to consider that French Guiana and Folkland are also European land at South America continent
Then considering that South America have Portuguese and Spanish as main languages, but also speaks French, Dutch English in small parts, all European languages. Sorry but I still lost on your explanations!

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RE[4]: Chile not west?
by JAlexoid on Thu 9th Jun 2011 23:58 in reply to "RE[3]: Chile not west?"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Oh please! Most people don't really consider Spain and Portugal to be part of "the western world".
But it's quite interesting point you are raising. What we consider western world is very narrow in definition. US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are very much part of the western world. But somehow non former British colonies are not included. Maybe because British colonists and colonies eradicated the local culture after taking over. While Spanish and Portuguese essentially incorporated local culture into catholicism.

French Guyana is still territory of the 5th republic.

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RE[4]: Chile not west?
by l3v1 on Fri 10th Jun 2011 07:42 in reply to "RE[3]: Chile not west?"
l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

So them you can say that West Europe is not west as well!


Oh, come on. You all know what is generally meant by western countries, and you all know that for a really long while now it has almost nothing to do with your relative location on the globe, but more with history, culture, religion, society, economy and generic values. Everyone knows what you mean when you say the west/western world/western countries or near/middle/far east, it's not funny or interesting to play ignorant on this issue.

Edited 2011-06-10 07:44 UTC

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RE[3]: Chile not west?
by PrimalDK on Thu 9th Jun 2011 22:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Chile not west?"
PrimalDK Member since:
2005-07-12

It also counts about 125 million catholics, which means a decidedly western -- as in "European" -- culture. Portugese and Spanish (their languages) seem less than indigenous as well. C# (the programming language, not the musical note) is apparently South American, but its originator seems to adapt quite smoothly to Redmond culture.

Western it may not be, but different it is not.

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RE[3]: Chile not west?
by pantheraleo on Fri 10th Jun 2011 13:36 in reply to "RE[2]: Chile not west?"
pantheraleo Member since:
2007-03-07

Because I strongly believe South American countries - and the continent as a whole - is far too different and unique (in a good way)


We all know you hate the West Thom. You hate America, you hate the UK, you hate France. Get over it.

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