Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Jul 2011 14:00 UTC
Microsoft Well, paint me red and call me a girl scout, I totally did not see this one coming at all. This is so utterly surprising it made my brain explode. Hold on to your panties, because this will rock your world. After pressuring several smaller Android vendors into submission (and yes, HTC is still relatively small compared to other players), Microsoft is now moving on to the big one: Redmond is demanding $15 for every Samsung Android device sold. Samsung's choices are simple: pay up, or face another epic lawsuit.
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RE[5]: Comment by Stephen!
by bassbeast on Sat 9th Jul 2011 01:01 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Stephen!"
bassbeast
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2007-11-11

I don't know when the last time you PC gamed but you really don't need to do that now. In fact one of my biggest selling points ATM is that folks can use that nice widescreen TV as a monitor so they don't have to sit hunched over a desk for...well anything. 1080P is 1080P and HDMI makes it plug and play simple. as for drivers both Steam and AMD will happily take care of the updates FOR you and I haven't seen a driver borkage in ages except for Crossfire/SLI setups and that is a pretty small niche that most won't need.

So you really ought to give it another look. Tigerdirect sells AMD triple and quad kits for dirt cheap, no skills required other than looking at pictures in a manual and following what you see, if your TV is from the last 3 years it probably has HDMI and VGA, and you can even use an X360 wireless if you prefer that over a wireless keyboard/mouse combo.

Finally I'd add the games are MUCH cheaper, both at launch and down the road than they will ever be on consoles. heck they are so cheap I often throw in a couple of RPGs or shooters at Amazon just so I can get some $19 order up to $25 so I can get supersaver shipping. Between Amazon, GOG, and Steam the amount of cheap PC gaming is just unreal, and a good gamer box can easily be built for less than $400 and last you for a decade with nothing more than the occasional $60 GPU card. Myself and several of my customers are running HD4850 cards which cost a whole $60 and which crank out the purty at 1080p just fine Thom, you really ought to give it another go.

Oh and checking your email and chatting on a 37 inch after a hard day's work? Nice...The only problem my customers who've switched have now is fighting their GFs/wives for time on the machine because they LOVE playing FB games on the big screen,LOL!

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RE[6]: Comment by Stephen!
by kaiwai on Sat 9th Jul 2011 01:57 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Stephen!"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Tiger Direct don't ship outside of the US - once again a US company fails to realise that us 'foreignas!' have money to and would like buy some of their merchandise to which they advertise on said website.

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RE[6]: Comment by Stephen!
by vitae on Sat 9th Jul 2011 06:05 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Stephen!"
vitae Member since:
2006-02-20

less than 400? A 360 Slim is $200. And added on to the price of that almost $400 computer is the price of the video card...and the one you're going to need next year to replace it in order to play the latest and greatest. Except that THAT one might also require a new power supply to run it. Then you're gonna need a controller. And all this money you're spending doesn't guarantee you're not going to have problems on your particular hardware because they can't possibly test it on every conceivable mixture of parts. Witness:
http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/forum/112-fallout-new-vegas-p...

With the console you never have to worry about that.

There is no way it's easier or cheaper to do PC gaming as opposed to consoles. PC gaming is an extortion racket meant to sell more hardware. The only advantage to PC gaming is mods.

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RE[7]: Comment by Stephen!
by bassbeast on Sat 9th Jul 2011 10:46 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Stephen!"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

Actually you are falling for the classic "razor and blades" model which is how consoles operate. Both sony and MSFT have typically sold their consoles at a loss because they make it up by charging higher fees for games and licensing.

Let me put it THIS way...how many REALLY good games have you bought for $2? I have HL2 EP2, Batman AA, heck I got nearly all the Ubisoft games like Far Cry 2 for a whole $15 for the whole smash!

And another misconception is you have to constantly upgrade cards, which unless you simply want ePeen bragging rights is simply untrue, and we can thank the consoles holding back game engines for that. several companies like Id have already said they won't release their next engine until a console refresh because the current consoles are so far behind they wouldn't be able to run it!

And your big "proof" of problems is Fallout? The WORST game for bugs on release in recent years? the one they make Youtube videos laughing about? THAT game? Meanwhile the rest of us who don't buy buggy crapola enjoy "just works" and have for quite awhile now. And you seriously think consoles are better? Do the words "Bully" ring any bells? Or Duke Nukem Forever? Both of which played fine on the PC but royally sucked and crashed hard on consoles?

Look if you want to pay more for each game, have hardware more than 3 generations behind, have a machine that is pretty much ONLY good for gaming and videos, oh and pay for online play as well? The choice is yours, fool and their money and all that. But trying to claim PCs are these mad scientist crash boxes is as far behind the times as those Linux zealots that try to claim Windows spends all day BSODing. Oh and my PC will last a decade easily, and even after will be handed down to someone else who will continue to get use, such as the P4 I used in 2002 that my mom uses to surf now. My very FIRST gamer box BTW, a 100MHz with a 200Mb HDD is STILL running, it is the C&C lathe controller for a lumber company now. Who wants old consoles?

You get more usage, you get VASTLY more lifetime, and as I pointed out a DIY triple or quad is dirt cheap. You are paying $200 for now 6 year old tech. Heck if you want 6 year old tech a PC from that era is $30 on ebay.

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