Linked by jarkkot on Tue 26th Jul 2011 21:44 UTC
Debian and its clones Debian announced that they are going to introduce multiarch support for Wheezy (7.0) in 2013. Well, nice, but aren't they a little bit late now that problems are mostly sorted out and systems moved to 64-bit? This would have been great news at the time when Lenny (5.0) was released, but does it even matter in 2013? Are they just going to make things more complicated for no reason?
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Think of the possibilities.
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 26th Jul 2011 22:16 UTC
Bill Shooter of Bul
Member since:
2006-07-14

I just read the article without anymore research, so this may be completely wrong ...

Think about a complex cpu intensive program you wrote for your cell phone. Most cases your little arm dual core is pleanty of processing power, but everynow and then you feel constrained by particular problems. No problem you just plug it into your phone doc and the host 12 core amd64 computer takes over running the operating system at the exact spot in the computation! Turbo power in spades, I say.

Now of course, phones don't run debian...
No body sane runs physics simulations on their phone ...

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RE: Think of the possibilities.
by Elv13 on Wed 27th Jul 2011 00:32 in reply to "Think of the possibilities. "
Elv13 Member since:
2006-06-12

You can't switch Arch while the program is running. The executable memory, data memory and stack are incompatible across architectures. The application itself is incompatible too, it have to be installed twice or use universal binary like hacks. What Debian do is what Gentoo and other did 8 years ago, having /lib32 and /lib64 and two set of ENVVARs. The LSB (Linux Standard Base) also support it since years, so there is nothing new there.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Yeah, apparently you didn't understand the gist of my post. Obviously thats not what this is. My best ideas are at their core rube goldberg machines. Really cool to look at, but extreme overkill for a menial task.

Edit:
But actually they are still talking about mixed instruction sets on the same machine as well, with one possibly running by emulation or what not. But hybrids still might make sense arm/x86 netbooks where you reboot into another ach for different power/performance levels. Still, if you could only get rid of the reboot , it would be even cooler.

Edited 2011-07-27 03:04 UTC

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Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Actually I think the Nokia N800,N810,N900 runs Debian-derived Linux. Probably N950 too.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Being derived from or "forked" from another distribution makes the difference.

N770 - fork of Debian - Maemo 2006
N800 - fork of Debian - Maemo 2007
N810 - fork of Debian - Maemo 2008
N900 - fork of Debian - Maemo 2009 (v5)

N950 - merger of Maemo and Moblin - Meego (version?)

Nokia made Maemo by forking Debian and modifying it specifically for Nokia's hardware. Intel created Moblin (a redhat fork?) for general use on mobile and enbedded devices. They merged into a single distribution last year or the year before which is what the N950 runs.

Rumour is that the N950 only has a small number of units available which are being leant out to QT developers instead of sold. Is this true? Booo.. I'd love to get hands on an N950 as a final upgrade from the N900 in the Nokia MIDs line.

Ideally, I still want a phone/tablet sized device runing stock Debian. Until then, Meego looks to be the closest to a proper general purpose distro on a mobile device. IOS and Android are certainly not GP distros.

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