Linked by David Adams on Wed 10th Aug 2011 17:07 UTC, submitted by glarepate
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless The beleaguered handset maker Nokia is setting itself up for what it hopes will be a lean and mean relaunch in the U.S. later this year: it has finally admitted that it will not launch its newest N9 device--the first and possibly only one based on the MeeGo platform--and that it plans to end sales of its Symbian-based devices as well as low-end Series 40 handsets, as it prepares for a generation of devices it is developing using Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 platform.
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Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Wed 10th Aug 2011 17:13 UTC
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Dumping 160 million users (many who can’t afford a smartphone) for a shiny, young userbase of 1 million on a new smartphone platform behind everybody else. Sounds cool. Hope that works out for you Nokia

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by Sauron on Wed 10th Aug 2011 21:53 in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
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The less phones they release in the US market, means less to be sued from for patent infringement. Expect more manufacturers to do this with the way patents are in the US.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by kristoph on Wed 10th Aug 2011 22:57 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
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Nokia practically invented the cell phone; their patent arsenal is vast; they could sue essentially anyone into oblivion.

They are doing this because - in the US - they want a clear message that Nokia = Widows Phone.

They will certainly be monetizing that patent portfolio further; have no doubt.


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RE: Comment by Kroc
by kristoph on Wed 10th Aug 2011 23:00 in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
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You know, it's not about the volume. Nokia makes virtually no money from feature phones so keeping around lots of feature phone users is pointless and irresponsible (to their shareholders).

The profit is in the smartphones so this is a good move.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by kaiwai on Thu 11th Aug 2011 04:35 in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
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And those 160million users basically bring very little in when it comes to profit per unit - sorry to tell you this but businesses need to make a profit to pay the bills and give a return to the shareholders.

From what I see Nokia is stopping the scatter gun approach and instead focusing in on a narrow set of of phones that have good profit margins rather than trying to be everything to every one. When it comes to such a change in direction I wouldn't be surprised if we gradually start seeing it occur in other markets - in NZ Nokia was *the* phone to have but Nokia has failed to keep up with the trend towards smart phones that do a lot more than just make phone calls so I wouldn't be surprised if such a decision was made when it came to selling phones in NZ.

For all the bashing of Windows Phone 7 (as others have done on this forum) it is remarkable the number of people who post on this forum and many other ones that have never actually used a Windows Phone 7 device in their life - their only exposure they have to Windows on a mobile phone is some bad experience they had at work 10 years ago or something to that affect. I mean, it is really pathetic when you start to make judgement calls on a product today based on an experience 5 years ago!

I don't own a Windows Phone 7 device (I have an iPhone 4 'White') but I can see Nokia with their Microsoft partnership making good inroads - the Nokia brand will bring in the end user and once the user sees Windows Phone 7 running (will be Mango by the time Nokia phones are released) on the device and how cool it is there will be a sea change for both organisations.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by Ford Prefect on Thu 11th Aug 2011 08:51 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
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Good comment!

But oh well, remember that first update to Windows Phone 7 that did provide no new functionality but broke half of the phones running it? It is not 10 years ago.

Time will tell whether Microsoft really learned their lessons. Nokia takes a very high risk.

I hope the best for them. Competition is always a good thing.

Edited 2011-08-11 08:51 UTC

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