Linked by suka on Thu 25th Aug 2011 22:19 UTC
KDE "After years of focusing on further improving KDE4 two weeks ago the developers of the free desktop announced the next big step for their project: KDE Frameworks 5.0. But as long-time developer - and Plasma team leader - Aaron Seigo points out in an interview with derStandard.at/web, the source-incompatible changes shall be held to a minimum. Also calls Frameworks 5.0 only the "first step", new Applications and Workspace releases are to follow later, Seigo goes on to talk about the chances in the mobile market with Plasma Active and further areas of collaboration with the other big free desktop: GNOME."
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RE: I'm loving it.
by lemur2 on Fri 26th Aug 2011 02:02 UTC in reply to "I'm loving it."
lemur2
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2007-02-17

Running Fedora 15 with KDE 4.6 on my notebook for 1 month. Man, it took some time, but Activities combined with Widgets really seems to be good thing. It feels like I'm using a very advanced system. I have to tweak it a little but now everything runs smooth. Seigo is a very talent developer.


Indeed. Once you understand the concept, KDE4 widgets, virtual desktops and activities is a means to arrange a desktop however you like, including wallpaper, shortcuts, URLs to websites, access to particular folders and/or files, whatever (including anything at all you could do with a KDE3 desktop) ... and save that arrangement as a named "activity". One can have as many named and saved activities as one wants, and one can load a given activity on to any given virtual desktop at one's whim.

This makes it possible to have any number of desktop configurations, all accessible at any instant, each of which is optimised just how you like it for doing a particular task. You don't have to use this capability, but it is there if you want it.

There is no other contemporary desktop available with this power and flexibility. None.

Edited 2011-08-26 02:06 UTC

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RE[2]: I'm loving it.
by earksiinni on Fri 26th Aug 2011 02:58 in reply to "RE: I'm loving it."
earksiinni Member since:
2009-03-27

Except ratpoison obvs.

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RE[3]: I'm loving it.
by lemur2 on Fri 26th Aug 2011 03:13 in reply to "RE[2]: I'm loving it."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Except ratpoison obvs.


If you want ratpoison's feature set, there AFAIK is no real alternative to ratpoison. It is absolutely great for those who want to completely escape the WIMP paradigm.

Back on the actual topic of this thread: If OTOH you are trying to claim that KDE3 was the be all and end all of GUI desktops and that the KDE team should have stuck with that, then we have an entirely different argument. There is not one single actual benefit of KDE3, KDE4 does every thing that KDE3 ever did, it can perform just as well on the same hardware, it uses no deprecated out-of-development supporting software, and it has additional advanced capabilities which make it by far the most advanced desktop environment.

Lets keep it real here.

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RE[2]: I'm loving it.
by allanregistos on Sat 27th Aug 2011 00:29 in reply to "RE: I'm loving it."
allanregistos Member since:
2011-02-10

"Running Fedora 15 with KDE 4.6 on my notebook for 1 month. Man, it took some time, but Activities combined with Widgets really seems to be good thing. It feels like I'm using a very advanced system. I have to tweak it a little but now everything runs smooth. Seigo is a very talent developer.


Indeed. Once you understand the concept, KDE4 widgets, virtual desktops and activities is a means to arrange a desktop however you like, including wallpaper, shortcuts, URLs to websites, access to particular folders and/or files, whatever (including anything at all you could do with a KDE3 desktop) ... and save that arrangement as a named "activity". One can have as many named and saved activities as one wants, and one can load a given activity on to any given virtual desktop at one's whim.

This makes it possible to have any number of desktop configurations, all accessible at any instant, each of which is optimised just how you like it for doing a particular task. You don't have to use this capability, but it is there if you want it.

There is no other contemporary desktop available with this power and flexibility. None.
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Hi,
It would be better if after the default installation of Linux with KDE, there should be a friendly wizard to setup activities and access them in a way that even a noob can understand. For me, even a poweruser have a hard time understanding how to configure KDE's activities( maybe the lack of time for searching docs).
Okay, KDE I think I will be using for my next desktop, also the future of Unity looks promising because of third party support coming in.

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RE[2]: I'm loving it.
by korpenkraxar on Sun 28th Aug 2011 21:24 in reply to "RE: I'm loving it."
korpenkraxar Member since:
2005-09-10

Indeed. Once you understand the concept, KDE4 widgets, virtual desktops and activities is a means to arrange a desktop however you like, including wallpaper, shortcuts, URLs to websites, access to particular folders and/or files, whatever (including anything at all you could do with a KDE3 desktop) ... and save that arrangement as a named "activity". One can have as many named and saved activities as one wants, and one can load a given activity on to any given virtual desktop at one's whim.

This makes it possible to have any number of desktop configurations, all accessible at any instant, each of which is optimised just how you like it for doing a particular task. You don't have to use this capability, but it is there if you want it.

There is no other contemporary desktop available with this power and flexibility. None.


Well yes, this does sound very nice... except that when coupled with the fairly crash-happy Plasma experience, slow kwin, general configuration clunkiness, obnoxious plasma/Qt4-window widgets theme mismatchets, weird index services and a far too talkative notification area, it all tends to get too bloated, complex and shaky to be worth it. I've tried this so many times but in the end it probably took me more time to set things up than it did getting tired of it, which makes me sad. I loved KDE 2 and 3 back in the day but *for me*, 4 never lived up to its hype and promises.

URLs on the desktop, really?

I really like many KDE apps but the overall desktop experience just isn't great.

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