Linked by David Adams on Thu 15th Sep 2011 07:08 UTC, submitted by kristoph
Windows Microsoft announced during the build conference, and Steve Sinofsky reiterated in a blog posting that: "For the web to move forward and for consumers to get the most out of touch-first browsing, the Metro style browser in Windows 8 is as HTML5-only as possible, and plug-in free. The experience that plug-ins provide today is not a good match with Metro style browsing and the modern HTML5 web." Sinfosky goes on explain why Microsoft will not include Flash and why it's no longer needed. It's as close as we'll get to an obituary for Flash. Update from Thom: Added a note in the 'read more'!
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Plugin-free web a good thing?
by Lousewort on Thu 15th Sep 2011 15:35 UTC
Lousewort
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2006-09-12

I see numerous comments celebrating the demise of flash.

Hold on a moment there. What about Adobe Acrobat for PDF? How about Java plugins? And does that mean we lose Youtube video? EBook reader plugins? Weather plugins? RSS feed plugins?

My favorite browser, Firefox, has a huge number of plugins, including my all time favorite, Firebug. Do we lose that too, as these plugins don't espouse the Metro "ethos"???

"Oh! Windows 8 has an app for video, an app for PDF, an app for {fill in the blanks}, and they all work together!". Do you really buy this? Right now, my acrobat reader works on my Linux box as well as my Windows machines. Will the Metro app do this too?

And while on the topic, can you see how quickly DotNet lookalikes like Mono are to be made obsolete? I pity those poor souls who thought to embrace Mono/C# as a way to cross platform support.

People are being shown a grid of labeled pictures, some moving and some not, and told that this is a "beautiful" interface- Just touch the box to launch your app full screen! Use your thumbs- who needs a mouse & keyboard? Used gestures and multitouch, it's the new and better way... Out with the old, and in with the new.

For some reason or another, people are falling for this tripe. The way MS are achieving their speed, is by suspending any but the current foreground process- and they call this multitasking? Only by redefining the term can this be true.

To me, the "Metro" interface is just another way of launching apps, reminiscent of an old PDP11/23 multichannel analyser VT100 touch screen terminal interface I used in 1983. The difference there, was that the applications launched ran in real time, in the background, and only displayed on-screen when you switched to them. That old machine ran in just 64K words or memory, and implemented "Metro" in my opinion, better than MS can do today, almost 30 years later.

I am unconvinced that Metro is better than a traditional desktop, other than on small screen devices. It's just a task switcher with a few bells and whistles that does not do justice to large screen hardware.

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kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

PDF is built into most browsers so this will be fine.

YouTube streams H.264 and WebM so your good.

Java on the client is already pretty dead.

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