Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 28th Sep 2011 15:36 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless This is the biggest one yet. Microsoft's professional extortion campaign - the third side of the same triangle it shares with Apple and Oracle - has finally hit Samsung. The two companies have signed a patent licensing agreement concerning Samsung's use of Android, in which a rumoured fee of $15 (!) per device will flow from Seoul to Redmond. Not entirely coincidentally, that's about the price of a Windows Phone 7 license.
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Do we know which patents?
by phoudoin on Wed 28th Sep 2011 16:02 UTC
phoudoin
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2006-06-09

Plus, as far as I know, the patents Microsoft claims are violated by any Linux based device, Android included, are all software ones.

Since when software patents are considered valid world-wide!? I fail to see why a phone manufacturer should license a software license from MS to ba allowed to sell his products in a market where software patents have no ground, like Europe.

What am I missing here?

Edited 2011-09-28 16:03 UTC

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RE: Do we know which patents?
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 28th Sep 2011 16:03 in reply to "Do we know which patents?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Money.

Not sure if that's the answer you're looking for, but generally, whenever crap like this happens, the answer is 'money'.

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phoudoin Member since:
2006-06-09

It's that or... 42.

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RE: Do we know which patents?
by l3v1 on Wed 28th Sep 2011 18:21 in reply to "Do we know which patents?"
l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

Since when software patents are considered valid world-wide!?


Perfectly valid question. I guess they (Samsung) just don't care, and just want to be left alone already and paying up is the easiest way. Problem is, MS can use such deals as leverage when going after others.

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RE: Do we know which patents?
by glarepate on Wed 28th Sep 2011 20:27 in reply to "Do we know which patents?"
glarepate Member since:
2006-01-04

Since when software patents are considered valid world-wide!? I fail to see why a phone manufacturer should license a software license from MS to ba allowed to sell his products in a market where software patents have no ground, like Europe.

What am I missing here?


Do you have actual information that anyone is paying a patent license fee for any devices shipped to a country where the patent isn't valid?

That would appear to be what is missing.

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RE: Do we know which patents?
by JAlexoid on Wed 28th Sep 2011 21:25 in reply to "Do we know which patents?"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Because they sign a common patent licensing agreement, not a specific patent license. You can blame IBM's lawyers for creating those kind of agreements.
After that agreement is signed, Samsung gets licenses to all patents but also blindly validates all other.

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