Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 30th Sep 2011 20:19 UTC
Multimedia, AV So, anyone remember WebM? A reader emailed me about a pilot study (in English!) performed by a collaboration between the NPO (the Dutch version of the BBC, basically) and TNO (the largest research institution in The Netherlands, often employed by our government) into the viability of using WebM and associated tools instead of H.264 and associated tools, including the perceived quality of VP8. The outcome of the pilot shouldn't surprise anyone - the toolchain needs work, WebM itself isn't there yet, but the future looks bright.
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RE[2]: Already works good here
by Kivada on Sat 1st Oct 2011 14:03 UTC in reply to "RE: Already works good here"
Kivada
Member since:
2010-07-07

The difference is that with FLV, you needed some relatively advanced tricks to get the file, whereas with HTML5 it's all a matter of viewing the source and searching for "<video", which every user on Earth can do.


Advanced tricks like opening /tmp and pulling the randomly named .flv file out of it?

I know recently they finally moved it elsewhere, but there are plenty of ways to pull the files on any os, Firefox alone has at least 50 addons to pull video, there are also dozens of stand alone apps that will put the files on the desktop.

Either way they still have the video. If they didn't want anyone to take it they should have never posted it and DMCA'd anyone that did in the endless legal Whack-A-Mole that makes the internet the great.

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RE[3]: Already works good here
by tidux on Sat 1st Oct 2011 15:33 in reply to "RE[2]: Already works good here"
tidux Member since:
2011-08-13

Even easier. Install FlashGot, begin playing video, right click, "flashgot media." I've yanked TV episodes off of megavideo, etc. this way.

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Got a point, I forgot about that /tmp trick ;) Used FF extensions to get the files myself, but it took me some time to find a good FLV player/converter, that didn't randomly drop frames without keeping audio and video in sync.

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cheemosabe Member since:
2009-11-29

The /tmp trick doesn't work anymore in recent versions. The file gets deleted as soon as it starts downloading but flash keeps it opened and it stays on the disk even though not on the filesystem. Easily bypassed:

ps aux | grep flash
cd /proc/<pid>/fd
ls -lh

The temporary files with "(deleted)" at the end and filesizes listed show up. Then you can just:

mplayer <nr>
cp <nr> ~/Downloads

Edited 2011-10-03 07:51 UTC

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