Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 7th Oct 2011 15:36 UTC, submitted by twitterfire
Oracle and SUN "Oracle has pulled the rug out from under Intel's Itanium processor by yanking support of its database, middleware, and application software on future Poulson and Kittson Itaniums. It looks as though Larry Ellison wants to take on IBM in microprocessors for data center systems, man to man, head to head. 'I remember when we first bought Sun, a lot of people said we were going to get out of the hardware business," Oracle's co-founder and CEO said opening up his keynote at the OpenWorld customer and partner and conference on Sunday night, when he also announced the new Exalytics in-memory BI appliance. 'I guess we didn't get that memo,' Ellison quipped, pointing out that Apple is doing a 'pretty good job' designing its own hardware and software and making it work well with its own services. And that Oracle is not only committed to making its server, storage, and networking business work, but having taken Sun's hardware as a means of getting its hands on Solaris and Java, Oracle is actually enthusiastic about creating its own stack."
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And what if ...
by glarepate on Fri 7th Oct 2011 16:27 UTC
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... IBM starts offering their database and WebSphere software for Sparc hardware? At a competitive price? Will Larry, Prince of Darkness, be willing to meet them on the cost battlefield?

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Edit: I see from a responder who hit Post before I did that this is already the case for IBM sofware. Then I will tag my comment with - <(^B)< <(^B)<

Edited 2011-10-07 16:31 UTC

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RE: And what if ...
by theosib on Fri 7th Oct 2011 17:00 in reply to "And what if ..."
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That assumes that Oracle doesn't find some "clever" way of making it hard or impossible for IBM to port their stuff to Sparc. Like Microsoft has done, where they make use of private APIs to give their own apps an advantage. Maybe in the current technical and legal environment, it would be impossible for Oracle to really lock out IBM, but I guarantee that they're thinking about it, and I can also guarantee that IBM is going to be at the bottom of the list of companies to receive technical support when they run into a problem.

Sun was always a challenge when it came to getting technical support, if you were an ISV and ran into some kind of problem. On the other hand, working with Solaris was wonderful compared to HPUX, Tru64, and AIX. Doing apps was posix, but writing kernel drivers was a nightmare for everything but Linux and Solaris. Hell, even Windows wasn't that bad to write drivers for.

So the instant IBM runs into some kind of problem they can't solve, they'll save time and gray hairs by not bothering to contact Oracle and just poking through OpenSolaris source code. Mind you, I'm not sure if it'll be much better for anyone else. Windows is okay to target, because that's all Microsoft does, and Linux is good because you can get the source code. But for these other hardware vendors, their OS is just a vehicle for selling hardware, so their OS tends to take a back seat to everything else, especially when it comes to support for developers. Oracle wants to sell databases. Their internal developers will get fantastic support (relatively speaking), but that's about it.

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