Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 13th Oct 2011 21:33 UTC, submitted by mahmudinashar
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Ah, it's that time of the year again. We already had this up on the sidebar, but I figured we'd turn it into a proper front page item - mostly because I want to discuss the move by the Ubuntu team to no longer install GNOME 2 as the 'classic' desktop option - which pretty much ends any and all involvement for me with Ubuntu (KDE 4 here I come). There's more to this than just that, of course, so those of you who do like Unity still have enough reason to upgrade.
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Surprised
by WorLord on Thu 13th Oct 2011 22:16 UTC
WorLord
Member since:
2011-08-03

I'm actually somewhat surprised at the Unity hate here.

I TOTALLY get the Gnome 3 hate, and Unity circa 11.04 hate... but this new one is everything the first one should have been. Nary a crash or memory leak in nearly a week's worth of continual use, and all the functional things I didn't like have been addressed.

I wonder if its just the whole "but I can't put launcher on the *bottom*!" thing, or what. I think it is quite good, now my favorite (over Win7, OSX, and any other Linux desktop).

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RE: Surprised
by sicofante on Thu 13th Oct 2011 22:28 in reply to "Surprised"
sicofante Member since:
2009-07-08

It's just the lack of customizability. Almost everything is hard coded. That's not nice. That's hardly the Linux spirit.

I understand it might evolve eventually. Then will be a good time to get it. In the meantime, however, Ubuntu should have provided support for the Gnome 2 series for at least two more releases. Canonical is alienating its user base. That's hard to understand IMO.

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RE: Surprised
by Jason Bourne on Thu 13th Oct 2011 23:34 in reply to "Surprised"
Jason Bourne Member since:
2007-06-02

There's no hate about Unity or GNOME Shell here. It's just that they are silly interfaces for the majority of people that used computers in the past, such as Windows XP (what, haven't you ever used XP?). I'm actually thinking of Windows 7 as a viable desktop now, since I'm not fond of GNOME Shell, XFCE (lack of polishment), KDE 4 (heavier, too overwhelming UI).

GNOME Shell is fast, light and attractive UI. But since I can't get the actitivies with a right-mouse click (and I was informed that X wouldn't let that happen) there is no point using it on a 20" LCD panel going to Activities corner every single second.

Edited 2011-10-13 23:36 UTC

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RE[2]: Surprised
by KLU9 on Fri 14th Oct 2011 00:35 in reply to "RE: Surprised"
KLU9 Member since:
2006-12-06

you mention KDE4's UI is overwhelming: is that the standard UI or the netbook UI (which I've heard makes things much simpler/"intuitive")?

(I haven't used KDE4 yet but will give it a go soon)

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RE[2]: Surprised
by Finalzone on Fri 14th Oct 2011 20:41 in reply to "RE: Surprised"
Finalzone Member since:
2005-07-06

GNOME Shell is fast, light and attractive UI. But since I can't get the actitivies with a right-mouse click (and I was informed that X wouldn't let that happen) there is no point using it on a 20" LCD panel going to Activities corner every single second.


You can use Super-Key (Windows icon on most keyboard) to to access activities then type a few word for your desired applications or right one of applications to open a new window. You know that because you have intensively used Gnome-Shell on previous topics.

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RE: Surprised
by bornagainenguin on Fri 14th Oct 2011 04:37 in reply to "Surprised"
bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

WorLord pondered...

I'm actually somewhat surprised at the Unity hate here.


I guess it really is true, you never get a second chance to make a first impression...

--bornagainpenguin

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RE: Surprised
by noamsml on Sat 15th Oct 2011 14:20 in reply to "Surprised"
noamsml Member since:
2005-07-09

My usage log for Unity on Ubuntu 11.10 was something like the following:

1. Open a web browser and maximize
2. Browse
3. Go to click the back button
4. Unity bar pops up, I accidentally made Dash appear instead of clicking the back button
5. Click escape, click the back button more carefully, and continue browsing
6. Eventually try clicking "back" again, same thing happens
7. Look for setting to change the way the unity bar pops up -- there is none
8. Install gnome 3

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RE[2]: Surprised
by WorLord on Sat 15th Oct 2011 20:25 in reply to "RE: Surprised"
WorLord Member since:
2011-08-03


7. Look for setting to change the way the unity bar pops up -- there is none


Er... yeah, there is. o.O

Granted, one must open CCSM, and that tool is... complicated. But I kind of like all those options.

For my part, I've entirely forgotten that Unity prefers to "intellihide" the launcher at all. I hate it when bits of my UI hide themselves, so I have it set to always visible... meaning, I don't have the problems you describe.

Edited 2011-10-15 20:27 UTC

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