Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 14th Oct 2011 19:05 UTC
Legal Yes, I'm hearing you guys - time to tone down a bit on the patent news. Hence, a summary here of recent developments concerning the various legal cases between Samsung and Apple. Today in The Netherlands, the judge ruled [Dutch] that Samsung will not be able to block the iPhone/iPad from the Dutch market. In the meantime, the Australian courts upheld the preliminary injunction against the Galaxy Tab 10.1, while the American courts ruled that while the Tab indeed infringes upon Apple's design patents, Apple has not yet convinced the judge that that actually matters. Tying this all together with earlier rulings we already covered - it seems like judges across the world are really, really willy-nilly. Update: DailyTech has some detailed visual comparisons between Samsung's and Apple's devices, as well with the various design patents. Huh. You don't say.
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RE[7]: The real loser...
by Alfman on Sat 15th Oct 2011 20:49 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: The real loser..."
Alfman
Member since:
2011-01-28

Neolander,

"It's not only about software, by the way. For this year's science festival, a lab at my university has built a flying skateboard based on superconducting levitation. Very fun stuff, I gave them some help for taking care of the stand."

That sounds awesome, my university never did things like that, but I've seen lots of videos of things that can been done with superconductors. Do you know exactly what your lab did differently that it'd be patentable?

The patent issues may carry over into disciplines other than software, but as I am a CS guy, I morally object to making claims about disciplines other than my own. I hate outsiders telling me my business, I don't want to be a hypocrite and tell a chemist/engineer/biologist what is best for them.

It's not that I don't have an opinion on general patents, but I only have experience with software, and the cost/benefit analysis may very well be different in other fields. I personally have no way to dispute claims that they are necessary in other fields.

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RE[8]: The real loser...
by Neolander on Sat 15th Oct 2011 21:18 in reply to "RE[7]: The real loser..."
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

"It's not only about software, by the way. For this year's science festival, a lab at my university has built a flying skateboard based on superconducting levitation. Very fun stuff, I gave them some help for taking care of the stand."

That sounds awesome, my university never did things like that, but I've seen lots of videos of things that can been done with superconductors. Do you know exactly what your lab did differently that it'd be patentable?

I believe that's the first vehicle using superconducting levitation that can reliably carry human persons on a distance of a few meters. There have been small vehicles before (most impressive being these ones IMO, in French but I believe you can find your way : http://www.tp.physique.usherbrooke.ca/levitation/index.htm ), and static platforms on which people can stand, but I don't think anyone has ever built the combination of both before.

Now, again, I don't know what exactly is patented. I just feel uncomfortable towards the possibility of a patent that gets too broad, and ends up basically targeting using superconducting levitation to carry people around. If it's just about patenting their specific "superconducting skateboard" design, I would be fine with that, but that wouldn't help them making any money from attractions in amusement parks.

The patent issues may carry over into disciplines other than software, but as I am a CS guy, I morally object to making claims about disciplines other than my own. I hate outsiders telling me my business, I don't want to be a hypocrite and tell a chemist/engineer/biologist what is best for them.

It's not that I don't have an opinion on general patents, but I only have experience with software, and the cost/benefit analysis may very well be different in other fields. I personally have no way to dispute claims that they are necessary in other fields.

I guess I can understand that. Myself, I am sufficiently close to the realm of physics to judge it based on your standards, but I believe physics as a whole is so fragmented that I would not be competent to judge the work of very foreign sub-disciplines, like particle physics or cosmology. At least, not as part of a serious, intellectual discussion ;)

Edited 2011-10-15 21:19 UTC

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RE[9]: The real loser...
by Alfman on Sun 16th Oct 2011 02:07 in reply to "RE[8]: The real loser..."
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Je suis nai a montreal, ons habitais proche de sherbrook, meme. Le fracais etais mon promiet langue (no, ce n'est pas une farse). Ons a demenajai aux s'etas avant queue j'ai aprix a ecrire, et cais pour ca que j'ecrit le francais come un imbicille aujourdri. Je parle mieux mais pas bien. Je sais jaimais les gendre des mots et je connait j'amais les mots pour les chose technical. Je suis trist que je connait personne ou j'habit avec qui je pourais practicais avec.

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