Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 17th Nov 2011 23:20 UTC
Legal The saga surrounding SOPA will be dominating the headlines for a while yet, and today is no different. First of all, and most importantly, the European Parliament has adopted a resolution against SOPA, while also calling for net neutrality to become part of EU law. Second, and this is also interesting, we now have a list of software companies which are against freedom of speech on the web. Unsurprisingly, Apple and Microsoft are on this list. Update: House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has spoken out against SOPA. Update II: Tumbler's anti-SOPA message on their website generated almost 90000 (!) phone calls to representatives. Amazing.
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us govt noob
by stabbyjones on Fri 18th Nov 2011 01:18 UTC
stabbyjones
Member since:
2008-04-15

(As someone who has no idea about the political system in the US other than there are two sides that hate each other.)

If approval ratings are lower than communism, why hasn't anyone forced a re-election? Or doesn't it matter who is elected any more?

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RE: us govt noob
by whitehornmatt on Fri 18th Nov 2011 01:22 in reply to "us govt noob"
whitehornmatt Member since:
2005-07-07

Because as long as you don't take their guns you can take away as much freedom as you like.

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RE[2]: us govt noob
by stabbyjones on Fri 18th Nov 2011 02:54 in reply to "RE: us govt noob"
stabbyjones Member since:
2008-04-15

There does seem to be a lot of fervor towards something that most of the world finds deathly boring.

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RE: us govt noob
by MamiyaOtaru on Fri 18th Nov 2011 01:30 in reply to "us govt noob"
MamiyaOtaru Member since:
2005-11-11

elections are every 2 / 4 / 6 years (depending on office). You don't force new ones, outside of extremely rare instances like California's recall of Governor Davis.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

aperently that'll do it too.

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RE: us govt noob
by jptros on Fri 18th Nov 2011 01:37 in reply to "us govt noob"
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2005-08-26

Forcing a re-election in the US is the equivalent of a rebellion, might as well get ready for a fight. We have elections all the time and the Presidential elections are coming next year along with (some ?) congressional seats and I believe all of the house of representatives.

As much as I would like to blame our government for our problems, we the people keep putting the same scum back in power. People (at least here) quickly forget the wrongs done by our leaders when they start in with their glorious campaigns and all they're going to do to make our lives better. In the end, they **** us every time. Until the greater populace comes to realize that when they're at the polls things will not change and unfortunately I don't think it will happen until everything is ruined for ourselves and our kids.

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RE[2]: us govt noob
by stabbyjones on Fri 18th Nov 2011 02:46 in reply to "RE: us govt noob"
stabbyjones Member since:
2008-04-15

So there's no equivalent of a no confidence vote or double dissolution?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_dissolution

Granted these are political based solutions. (The people just can't demand an election)

What do you do if you have a government that says "We will do everything in our power to screw this country over!!!"

Is the only option rebellion?

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RE: us govt noob
by Tuishimi on Fri 18th Nov 2011 06:14 in reply to "us govt noob"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

We don't have a parliament system. You cannot force a president out with a vote of confidence/no confidence.

We elect our federal officials for terms. State officials CAN be booted. I live in AZ and we just had enough people sign a petition to force an early election in one district.

But the process is more difficult on the federal level and generally it would have to be a massive ethical failure to begin an impeachment process.

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RE: us govt noob
by Morgan on Fri 18th Nov 2011 12:30 in reply to "us govt noob"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

*Apologies all around in advance for this political post.*

The two major parties in the U.S. don't actually hate each other. At their roots they are quite similar. However, the stereotypes of severe partisanism do have a basis in reality.

The major differences are that the Conservative Republicans want smaller government and less taxes (which often means less government assistance to the poor and lower class), laws that lean more towards "Christian" morals as opposed to progressive and agnostic laws, and they favor Capitalism over Socialism when it comes to economics.

Liberal Democrats don't mind bigger government if it means a better world for the people, are generally favorable towards higher taxes and big spending, are progressive when it comes to what is considered moral and just, generally eschew ties to any particular religion or lack thereof, and appear to be more Socialist than Capitalist though there is room in the philosophy for forward-thinking Capitalism.

All that said though, at their core American politicians all around are greedy and selfish bastards who only want to push the agendas their fathers and mothers drilled into them. At least, that's how it has been my entire life. I know things change as the generations change, but if things keep going the way they are now we will soon be the least desirable country to live in.

My fondest wish is for the people of my generation and the next younger one -- people from their 40s all the way down to teens coming of age -- to rise up and say "To hell with this shit!" and start voting in true leaders and innovators. We've had quite enough of the 1950s mentality from elected officials who weren't even born in that decade.

Sadly, the people who "get it" are rarely into politics enough to run for office, or even if they are, they don't have the personality to win votes. Politics has by definition always been a popularity contest, and the contestants are rarely known for their intelligence and foresight.

/rant over, sorry about that.

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RE[2]: us govt noob - like they say
by jabbotts on Fri 18th Nov 2011 13:44 in reply to "RE: us govt noob"
jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Anyone who wants the job should be disqualified.

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