Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th Feb 2012 17:55 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y Let this be a lesson. After posts by John Gruber and Shawn King, this happened to Violet Blue. "The misinformation gave a significant number of people fuel to stalk me, attack me for hours at a time, malign, insult me in disgusting ways, threaten me with weapon-specific violent death (an axe), and lead social media attempts to force me to lose my job over the matter. Many referenced John Gruber, and/or his post as they did this. Plans were openly made to make media to attack me - another Angry Mac Bastards podcast." Disgusting story, and sadly enough, this isn't the first time this has happened, as Blue notes in her article. I don't like talking about these matters (you don't want to know the kind of crap that gets thrown my way at times), but I can assure you my inbox has seen its share of pure vitriol after Gruber links to an OSNews piece. It ain't pretty.
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Soulbender
Member since:
2005-08-18

They completely misidentified the person in the photograph.


Not completely misidentified. They said this is person X from company Y while it in fact was person Z from company Y. Plus they apologized. Not nearly as bad as calling that person a booth babe (implying airhead bimbo) and not apologizing.

Edited 2012-02-08 08:32 UTC

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JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Not completely misidentified. They said this is person X from company Y while it in fact was person Z from company Y. Plus they apologized. Not nearly as bad as calling that person a booth babe (implying airhead bimbo) and not apologizing.

A) How about you read the original article to see what she meant. She actually explains it in the foot note.
B) VioletBlue actually apologised to both and the apology was unnecessary, as it happens. As the two people referenced were not offended.
C) No matter what you say, it's was Shawn and Gruber that stirred up the whole thing. Otherwise it would have been just a simple blog post.

Here is the text that led to death threats to VioletBlue:
My friend, chef Richie Nakano, stood quietly next to me. We both watched her.

We were waiting for her to change expression.

She sat on a stool in between two large monitors across the aisle from us. The pretty brunette was in one of those big corner booths that paid a few bucks for that sorta-prime real estate you know is a gamble for whoever forked over the money to sell wignuts or widgets or iPhone cases or other sundry USB landfill.

Her shoulders were hunched and her hands sat limply in her lap beneath breasts that were packaged air-tight in a tight, branded t-shirt.

She stared at the floor. Unlike her counterparts, she never smiled. Sad booth babe was sad.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/violetblue/macworld-2012-the-island-of-mi...

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I still don't understand how Violet's original text led to this much hate and vitriol.

My best guess: geek men who think women need protecting. Here's a little nugget of knowledge from someone who has always preferred hanging out with women instead of guys, and from someone whose best friend is a girl: women don't need protecting. At all. There is nothing more sexist than guys jumping to someone's defence just because that someone is a woman.

Those guys are the reason women tend to be so rare in geek circles.

Calling a woman a babe, chick, or whatever is not, by definition, sexist. In most contexts, it's perfectly innocent and acceptable - especially in the context of Violet's piece. She was at a booth. She was a babe (as far as I can judge). Thus, she's a booth babe. The lady in question was clear in her conversation with Violet: she didn't find it offensive at all.

All these Grubers, Kings & Co. trying to justify the kind go treatment Violet got sicken me. If you think its okay for Violet to receive threats of violence and other abuse just because she - accurately - called someone a booth babe, then there's something seriously wrong with your brain and/or your morals.

Judging by the following bit from Shawn's latest article, referring to Violet stating she never met Shawn:

"I'm sorry that I made so little an impression on Violet when we met at a Macworld a few years ago. We were even in a movie together...at different times."

I wouldn't be surprised if Shawn's simply a little bit peeved about Violet not remembering who he was, and that he was hurt in his male pride.

Or is that a sexist thing to say?

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