Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 16th Feb 2012 14:46 UTC
Mac OS X Well, this is a surprise. Several websites have a preview up of Apple's next Mac OS X release - it's called Mountain Lion, and continues the trend of bringing over functionality from iOS to Mac OS X. Lots of cool stuff in here we've all seen before on iPhones and iPads, including one very, very controversial feature: Gatekeeper. Starting with Mac OS X 10.8, Apple's desktop operating system will be restricted to Mac App Store and Apple-signed applications by default (with an opt-out switch), following in Windows 8's footsteps.
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RE: It's not as bleak as it looks!
by TechGeek on Thu 16th Feb 2012 15:18 UTC in reply to "It's not as bleak as it looks!"
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Not to start a flame war, but I use Linux and my stuff just works. And I don't worry about viruses or malware. Security can be done in such a way that you don't have to cripple the system.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:

Not to start a flame war, but I use Linux and my stuff just works. And I don't worry about viruses or malware. Security can be done in such a way that you don't have to cripple the system.


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Tony Swash Member since:

There is an alternative possibility. Maybe Apple feels that the whole App store is getting a bit too big and cumbersome but they don't want to lose the advantages of curation (see below) so maybe the option of signed apps available from outside the App store might migrate to iOS. Remember the App store is a break even operation for Apple - it's just there, like the whole of iTunes, to build value for Apple's devices.

On the whole issue of curation and freedom. The reality for the vast majority of users is that the curated (app store or other) model is a huge increase in freedom, freedom from fear, anxiety, disaster. The experience of the previous two decades of PC computing culminated for most users in a terrible sense of anxiety about their PCs, most are not power users or tweakers or techies, they are just normal people trying to use PCs to do things, sometimes very important or valuable or personal things. People's actual experience of PCs was that of a constant threat of system crashes, system corruption, lost data and actually malicious attack. The fear often paralysed people, they would stop surfing, stop clicking links, stop opening attachments, stop trying out new software, anything to feel safe. None of that is an exaggeration, it's how it actually was and still is for many. Plus of course the actual software was often badly written and hugely over priced.

So when iOS came along, first on the iPhone and then on the iPad, it was greeted with huge enthusiasm by normal users, that's why the app explosion happened (a billion apps downloaded a week!), people felt liberated and could finally explore whilst feeling perfectly safe.

One mans freedom is another man's tyranny

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korpenkraxar Member since:


Linux support call center in Poland?

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howitzer86 Member since:

The average user could not install and run a Linux box for any length of time without banging their head against the wall in frustration... they don't have the time or desire to mess with it. And it does take more time and effort to configure especially when you really don't know your way around a computer except for the big 5 (web browsing, email, spreadsheets, word processing and presentation)

I'm not too worried about such people really. If they aren't interested enough to figure out how to do this, what makes you think their apathy would somehow turn into interest in a free desktop environment?

The writer says what Apple is doing could create a shortage of hard-core developers. Ok. People like that tend to be fine with installing Linux - even on their first try. People like that are not the same people that you're talking about.

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phoenix Member since:

The "average user" couldn't install and setup a MacOS X or Windows machine from scratch either. If the OS isn't preinstalled and preconfigured, they're screwed, regardless of what OS it is.

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kenji Member since:

Well duh

The 'average user' can't even install windows without hand holding. Average users buy a computer and don't mess with the OS.

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ggeldenhuys Member since:

The average user could not install and run a Linux box for any length of time without banging their head against the wall in frustration...

What rubbish! I installed Ubuntu 10.04 for my folks (they are in their late 60's and not computer savy - zero experience). I installed Linux because of its stability and no virus worries, and Ubuntu is easy to use. They have used their pc for a year now, writing documents, sending emails, printing photos (they surprised me by installing their own printer), and even Skype'ing. They say they are having lots of fun - and phoned me only once for support. So Linux is no more difficult to use than any other OS!

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lucas_maximus Member since:

Linux lacks two things that make malware attractive.

1) A Stable API/ABIs.
2) Market Share.

Number 1 is what other operating systems provide and Linux Desktop distros don't. A malware author has to make assumptions about the system for it to spread. Congratulate yourself all you like, but the nature of the OS that protects you is the same thing that makes it unattractive to software developers.

The second, while there are more Linux servers and they do have a good security track record, if they are left unpatched liked with the PSN network they can be hacked just like before.

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Morgan Member since:

To be fair, bloodline has a point, in one sense. People (in general) really do buy things from a consumer's standpoint. If I buy a new stereo for my truck, I don't want to have to install a bootloader and system firmware to get beyond a lit up display, or go wading across the internet looking for codecs so it will play WMA and MP3 files as stated on the box. No, I want to be able to hook it up, put in a disc or tune a station and get music.

That's the consumer mindset, and while the geeky side of the population has grown in the past few years the vast majority of people are average folks who just want something to turn on and spit their favorite content at them.

That said, I really hope this kind of thing from Apple (and Microsoft too, with Windows 8) doesn't spell the end of general purpose computers. The Raspberry Pi mentioned by bloodline won't be around forever, and it isn't really meant as a general purpose computer but as a learning tool for the education market. It just so happens to be cheap and geek-friendly, opening the door to those of us who want or need something small, powerful and easy to develop for.

I really hope we aren't seeing the end of the BYOPC/OS (build your own PC and/or OS) era, but this is definitely a step in the wrong direction in my eyes.

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marcp Member since:

Well, you're perfectly right. I'm also using Linux as one of my OS and it works just fine. No need to become a slave to some corps, give out your rights, sell your soul to devil, give them your child, pay rediculous amount of money, and let them load you with ADs.

Of course, to keep it that way we need to stay focused and fight for it when endangered.

The problem is that people used to think they can't be free, they sell their privacy for 'free' services, etc.

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