Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 16th Feb 2012 14:46 UTC
Mac OS X Well, this is a surprise. Several websites have a preview up of Apple's next Mac OS X release - it's called Mountain Lion, and continues the trend of bringing over functionality from iOS to Mac OS X. Lots of cool stuff in here we've all seen before on iPhones and iPads, including one very, very controversial feature: Gatekeeper. Starting with Mac OS X 10.8, Apple's desktop operating system will be restricted to Mac App Store and Apple-signed applications by default (with an opt-out switch), following in Windows 8's footsteps.
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lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

Also from you won sources

Apple's introducing Gatekeeper, which can only be described as a bold new middle ground for app distribution: an optional setting in OS X 10.8 allows users to restrict their systems to run only apps that have been signed by trusted developers using a free certificate provided by Apple.


Which supports both of his assertions (except for the purchase of signing key) ... apparently you might want to take reading comprehension classes.

EDIT: I would like to point out that a signing of packages for a developer is very much like the signing of packages from a particular repository with Linux.

So apparently it is Evil if Apple make you do it, but alright if Fedora suggest it.

Double Standard all the time.

Edited 2012-02-16 20:10 UTC

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Well, I have a Fedora install right before my eyes, and I can download and install random RPMs from the internet just fine.

I can also build source packages and install them manually if I really want to. There is no attempt from the Fedora project to make this task difficult.

That's what Thom is talking about here. Signed repositories are not bad in themselves, they only become a problem when users are not able to install software from a third-party source without vendor-imposed hassle.

Edited 2012-02-16 20:42 UTC

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Well, I have a Fedora install right before my eyes, and I can download and install random RPMs from the nternet just fine.

I can also build source packages and install them manually if I really want to.

That's why Thom is talking about. Signed repositories are not bad in themselves, they only become a problem when users are solely able to install software from a single source without hassle.


I have a fedora install as well ... :|

I don't understand where the problem is coming from, developer X get Key Y and signs their applications with it ... users can install it ... I don't understand what the problem is.

I work in the software world with many crap bits of software and this lock-in in childs play compared to what I have to deal with ... I wish it was this easy to work around.

Edited 2012-02-16 20:52 UTC

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rhavyn Member since:
2005-07-06

That's what Thom is talking about here. Signed repositories are not bad in themselves, they only become a problem when users are not able to install software from a third-party source without vendor-imposed hassle.


Unfortunately, Thom's anti-Apple blinders are on so tight he is spreading verifiably false information. There is nothing stopping user's from installing software from anywhere in Mountain Lion and there is, at the worst, a minor easily avoided vendor imposed hassle.

1. You can download signed software from anywhere. The certificate is in the developer's name and Apple has no way to restrict what is signed or where it's distributed.

2. Even if you are not using the "Allow anything" preference, all you need to do is right click an app, click open and then click through an "Are you sure" prompt. From then on you can run the app with no prompt.

There is nothing in this release that makes it difficult to get around Gatekeeper if it's turned on and there is an option to turn it off completely if my #2 is too much for you.

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