Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 28th Mar 2012 22:29 UTC
Games The rumour mill for the next generation of video game consoles has been churning out some juicy stuff these past few months. While Nintendo has laid most of its cards out on the table, Microsoft and Sony have remained tight-lipped, probably because their consoles are still seeing increased sales. So, we have to rely on rumours, and those rumours have one thing in common: Microsoft and Sony want to eliminate the used games market.
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by rexstuff on Thu 29th Mar 2012 03:16 UTC
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What happened to books?

You can buy a book, and read the book. You can then sell the book, or loan the book out to your friends. You can buy a used book from a used book store, or borrow it from a library.

But with video games, for some reason (and to a lesser extent, movies and music), this simple and effective model does not apply. When you buy a video game, you don't own the game. You own a licence to play the game. Publishers don't want you to buy it used, let alone loan it to a friend. Imagine how the publishers would react if someone had the audacity to suggest a video game 'library'. If someone proudly proclaimed that they refused to buy used books because they want to support book publishers, we would all look at him like he was nuts.

So what's different? Why does this simple, common sense approach to books not apply to video games?

Sure, they're expensive to make. Sure, they're easy to copy, being digital. But that seems like no excuse to me. Media is media. I don't purchase a licence to read a book.

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RE: Books
by Soulbender on Thu 29th Mar 2012 04:01 in reply to "Books"
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So what's different? Why does this simple, common sense approach to books not apply to video games?

Because the It industry is special. Unfortunately that's not special in a good way but in the "short bus" kind of way.

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RE: Books
by bassbeast on Thu 29th Mar 2012 10:03 in reply to "Books"
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I'm sorry, haven't you heard? They have these things called 'eBooks' now that guess what? Just like the games and shows with the lock in. Don't think they'll take over? Amazon is already paying authors to have Kindle exclusives and all it'll take is for them to score the next Twilight or Harry Potter for eReaders to become the next iPod. Have you SEEN how cheap they are selling the Kindles? We are talking about $79 for a screen that can be read in ANY light and carry thousands of books!

Sadly my friend you are gonna end up with TWO choices, choose a pirate, or be locked in, that's it. As for why its different its because the publishers lobbied and got all these laws like DMCA passed and now everyone is playing monopoly. By locking them down and putting always on DRM not only do they kill used games, but they'll kill the retail games as well! How many EA games can you not play the MP on now? last I checked nearly all of their 09 and some of their 010 games have had MP killed. Want to play online? Well you can only play by buying our NEW game! They'll be able to do the same with SP thanks to always on DRM, just you watch.

Oh and here's something that will cook your noodle as with the current electronic media they get to have the protections of BOTH but the liabilities of NEITHER. Here is what I mean "Oh you want to make a copy, i'm sorry but you only bought a LICENSE not the media, want it in another format you need to pay again" which is followed by "Oh you scratched you disc and want another one? oh I'm sorry but you do NOT have a license you bought the MEDIA and now that its trashed you have to go buy another one!" This is total insanity and is a classic "heads i win, tails you lose" as they get the protections of BOTH but none of the obligations. must be nice to be able to buy double standards like that.

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RE[2]: Books
by sagum on Thu 29th Mar 2012 10:40 in reply to "RE: Books"
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Real book lovers know that paper books will never go away. We've already read enough paper books to know that without them, when skynet takes over we'll not have access to computers initally and we'll have lost the way to lookup information and won't be able to shut it down.

Seriously though, there is something special about the musty smell, the texture of a book, its pages, the weight and size of each one as you flick the pages taking in the story or information that they contain.

the most you get from a ebook is the sore eyes and recharging.

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RE[2]: Books
by sgtrock on Thu 29th Mar 2012 14:50 in reply to "RE: Books"
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Or choose option 3; support vendors who don't follow predatory practices. Baen Publishing and O'Reilly Publishing come to mind in the e-book world. Battlefront.Com and GoG.Com come to mind in the gaming world.

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RE: Books
by Mrokii on Thu 29th Mar 2012 12:53 in reply to "Books"
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It's not only phyiscal books. A far better example (imho) are electronic equipment. Or cars. Or furniture. Taken the stance of game and music companies, why don't we pay our car manufacturer a share whenever we sell our used car? Or better yet, let's make a law that completely prohibits the sale of used cars. Now that would drive economy, wouldn't it?

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