Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 14th May 2012 22:49 UTC
Windows For weeks - if not months - I've been trying to come up with a way to succinctly and accurately explain why, exactly, Windows 8 rubs me the wrong way, usability-wise. I think I finally got it.
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RE[3]: um
by emarkp on Mon 14th May 2012 23:26 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: um"
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2005-09-10

And I guess I can go to hell if I'm not in that target demo?

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RE[4]: um
by Nelson on Mon 14th May 2012 23:28 in reply to "RE[3]: um"
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2005-11-29

No, but you can deal with it or not. It just serves to give context in hopes some of you can tone down the vitriol.

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RE[5]: um
by redshift on Mon 14th May 2012 23:41 in reply to "RE[4]: um"
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2006-05-06

I guess windows 7 will be the windows 8 pro edition. I know my company has written WIn 8 off already. It seems strange to me that MS is pissing in the same pool they drink from.

Metro is just about as exciting to me as Dashboard was on OSX. Only no one expected you to get you work done in Dashboard.

It deserves vitriol because it is leaving a big hole for professionals. Even worse than Final Cut X did for video professionals.

Edited 2012-05-14 23:44 UTC

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RE[4]: um
by jnemesh on Tue 15th May 2012 16:04 in reply to "RE[3]: um"
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2008-04-08

Worse...you can go to Linux! ;)

In all seriousness, this is going to finally push me to move to Linux. Although, really, its going to be less painful than my last attempt back in 2006...there is a LOT better support for the hardware that is out there, and software wise, there is a lot less compromise in the quality of available apps that run native under Linux.

People are starting to realize that they don't NEED Windows anymore. If you give them an alternative that works better, is more secure, and is actually easier to use than Windows, they WILL switch!

8 years ago, when I attempted to run Fedora 5, installing applications was a TOTAL pain! It took me HOURS just to get Adobe Flash working and playing nice with Firefox! Now, they have one-click installations and app stores. Click on what you want, and it loads. The geeky command line stuff is still there, but the average non-geek doesn't ever have to see it!

In short, the only thing going for Windows is MOMENTUM, and with Windows 8, they are going to kill even that advantage. By forcing people to learn a new OS regardless of what they choose, I think you will find many that are more willing to learn Linux than learn to live with Windows 8!

P.S. I don't even want to HEAR what you guys think about Windows 9...if Windows 9 is the saving grace of MS, they are DOOMED, because by the time Win9 is released, Windows in general will be even MORE irrelevant than it is now!

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RE[5]: um
by Jason Bourne on Wed 16th May 2012 00:00 in reply to "RE[4]: um"
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2007-06-02

Linux users are very upset with GNOME Shell and Unity. A great part of users certainly are. I don't think going anywhere bleeding edge is useful now.

If you're a Windows guy, just stick with 7. If you're a Linux, I would advise to stick with RHEL/CentOS or Debian Stable.

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RE[5]: um
by WereCatf on Wed 16th May 2012 01:17 in reply to "RE[4]: um"
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2006-02-15

In all seriousness, this is going to finally push me to move to Linux.


Why? Is there some reason why you can't use Windows 7? Is the release of Windows 8 somehow forcing you to move to a new OS from your old one?

I personally will just continue using my Windows 7 as I have done until now and wait for 3rd parties to solve the issues I have with Windows 8.

The geeky command line stuff is still there, but the average non-geek doesn't ever have to see it!


Oh, I wish that was true. But well, just recently I upgraded the Ubuntu-installation I had running to the newest release. It started out fine, but then the installation seemed to stall. I waited for a while, then clicked on the small arrow that brings up the terminal-window and guess what? There it was, waiting for me to input stuff. Later on when the installation finished Ubuntu needed a restart, but not surprisingly things went wrong again: the system refused to boot, it would only hang there with unmountable root filesystem. Turns out there was a bunch of modules and other packages missing.

And this was all on a very standard Ubuntu installation, I hadn't even so much as installed any custom themes on it. The only things I had installed were compilers and their relevant dev libraries. No new kernels, no binary-only drivers, no nothing like that.

My point is that I *still* often have to resort to command-line to fix stuff that gets broken for no good reason.

By forcing people to learn a new OS regardless of what they choose, I think you will find many that are more willing to learn Linux than learn to live with Windows 8!


That would be true in a parallel dimension, possibly, but in this dimension there is nothing stopping Joe Blow from just sticking with Windows 7. And when he buys a new PC he will just learn to use Windows 8, complain about it for a while, and then do nothing about it in the end.

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RE[4]: um
by blahbl4hblah on Tue 15th May 2012 17:35 in reply to "RE[3]: um"
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2011-05-29

"Go to hell" is a bit strong don't you think? I've been using it on a daily basis as my workstation since the Build conference last September and it's just not that bad.

It's like anything else...its takes a couple of days to get a new install setup with all of your tools and then it works just like you think it would.

I hardly even notice the metro parts...and I've started using the windows key more when I use win7 or 2K8. (Hit win and start typing...it's nice.)

I've started using powershell for anything and everything since you can finally do that on windows. Honestly, it's much better than it is worse.

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