Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 28th May 2012 19:25 UTC
In the News This topic comes up quite a lot on technology websites, but I generally try to steer clear from it as much as possible, since I'm not the one to talk about it (you know, with me being a man and all that), however, I feel it might be a good idea to just get my opinion out there and be done with it. The topic of women in IT is a hot-button issue, so let me just go out guns blazing: assuming women need special treatment, help, protection, and affirmative action is just as insulting and degrading as outright claiming women have no place in IT - maybe even more so.
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status, income and prestige
by unclefester on Wed 30th May 2012 00:49 UTC
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A male is basically defined by his job title and income. Women aren't. A poor but attractive woman can always marry a rich man.

In the USSR medicine and dentistry were traditionally very lowly paid and low prestige jobs. The vast majority (80+%) of Soviet doctors (except surgeons) and dentists were female. [The highest prestige job in the USSR was engineering which was totally dominated by males.]

In contrast Western dentists and doctors have traditionally been highly paid and high status. This has meant that many high achieving males have been attracted to these traditionally caring professions.

Medical incomes (and status) are gradually falling in most western countries. This has lead to many ambitious males to be attracted to very high paying postions in banking and business rather than medicine. In turn the number of female medical graduates has increased markedly over the past 30-40 years.

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RE: status, income and prestige
by zima on Mon 4th Jun 2012 22:40 in reply to "status, income and prestige"
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In the USSR medicine and dentistry were traditionally very lowly paid and low prestige jobs.

Not really so; not sure where you're getting this from. The pay for such professions was comfortable enough (not exactly "lowly" anyway) ...and, most importantly, a job in ~medicine usually came with notable "unofficial" financial incentives (bribes, really) - so the prestige was at least high enough to exploit the job position like that with impunity.

And I'd say the highest prestige job in the USSR was being part of nomenklatura...

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