Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Jun 2012 10:12 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Only a few more hours until the last of the big three has its big event (Google i/o, after WWDC and Microsoft's Surface and WP8 events). They will most likely announce a Nexus tablet, as well as Android 4.1, Jelly Bean. While many of you are still on Gingerbread with your top-of-the-line phones - let me poke a few eyes out with mikegapinski's Android 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich port... To the Samsung Wave. Dual-booting Bada 2 and ICS, right here.
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RE[5]: Comment by avgalen
by phoudoin on Wed 27th Jun 2012 12:38 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by avgalen"
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I guess that why such stuff is available under a big alpha/preview/try_at_your_own_risk/author_will_take_no_responsibility_ whatever_the_consequences_nuclear_war_included disclaimer.

No promises.

Now read those long EULA of these so-called polished/finished closed software: surprise, they say exactly the same (but in a more lawyer terms)!

There is no warrant of software completeness, polishness or featureness. The only difference is that closed software won't say publicly what they *do* know is not working fine in their product.

Meanwhile, many open project will share publicly their progress, issues and shortcomings included.
They often pay the price of process transparency for that, people calling their product unfinished.

But the same people will call a product sold in a good looking box as finished because 1) the box looks fine 2) they never will recognize they bought a product not finished/polished as they through and 3) they can't know how much the product is finished or not, the development state being secret.

It's not a question of openess vs closed, it's a question of transparent vs secret.
Aka does ignorance is really bliss?

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RE[6]: Comment by avgalen
by lucas_maximus on Thu 28th Jun 2012 06:19 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by avgalen"
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All closed source source is the ebilz and they hide stuff from you </sarcasm>

It doesn't have to be closed or open, I want things complete.

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RE[7]: Comment by avgalen
by phoudoin on Thu 28th Jun 2012 08:51 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by avgalen"
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It doesn't have to be closed or open, I want things complete.

Everybody does.
But willing is never enough to have it.
*Someone* have to actually do it happen.

And regarding ICS on a Samsung Wave, so far, the best hope is not the manufacturer - as a naive one would expect - but... yes, an hobby project, which has yet to reach usability state but *still* is the best hope.

And this hope existence is possible *only* because of openness.

Oh, sure, we can goes sidetracks and debate of the interest or not to have ICS on a Samsung Wave, and maybe there is not such such point beyond technical curiosity.
But the facts remains: if there is one, it *may* become a reality *because* of openness.
The existence itself of such project is the topic here, not his *current* status.

Which is, I think, the main point of the article.
Check title again.

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